Well ok, but rounding up from "1.8 million" to "2 million" isn't really the same thing as rounding an estimate to a "whole number". Rounding from 1.8 million to 2.0 million is in fact the same thing as rounding from 1800000 to 2000000.

Saying that rounding up is acceptable and legally permitted behavior for a public incorporated company when it concerns whole millions of units seems kind of arbitrary. In other words, why is 1.8 -> 2 million a legally permissible distortion while 8 -> 10 million or 90 -> 100 million is not, in your opinion?

I have no professional insight whatsoever how this works inside the organizations of MS, Nintendo and Sony, but somehow I would assume that they get some numbers on sell-through from retailers etc, and at a certain date their aggregated numbers on sell-through reach a milestone such as e.g. "10 million". Those internal sell-through numbers are probably subject to a certain amount of uncertainty (just like say Mediacreate and NPD numbers).

Nevertheless, you seem to be suggesting that it would be permissible for e.g. Sony to have their internal numbers on sell-through say 9.5 million, and make an official statement that they reached the milestone "10 million units sold through".

I don't understand how that would not constitute lying to shareholders about the performance of the company with impact on stock price?

It wasn't 10 million it was 'OVER' 10 million. That's a strange way of announcing an estimate that could have been 'rounded up' don't you think? Anyway, it is now clear that Sony's official numbers were doubted on this site and that tells me everything I need to know.

I don't understand what all the complaining is about. Sony stated a sales figure, VGC recognises it but also states that with it's tracking data it cannot/doesn't know where to allocate the extra units sold. It's simple. Everyone knows VGC isn't perfect but as long as their numbers are transparent that's the real important part.

Although, I guess there should be an option on the front page under total sales that links to the companies latest official total sales figures and a date

Obviously have the other consoles with this too.

What is funny is that before the 10m announcement a lot of people here on forum were predicting that already.

VG keeps undertracking the PS4 and that just not going to change.. since the only company VGchartz don't trust for official numbers is Sony..

Please read through the rest of the thread before making sweeping comments such as this one. This will likely be the only warning.

Just imagine if they hadn't got any data from npd, Sony and other trackers

Well, this thread didn't end too well... :/

I do think the PS4 is still under tracked by quite a lot, especially since Sony's wording during GC suggested they'd rounded down slightly (rather than up), but i don't see anything wrong with how VGC are doing things. I can respect ioi wanting the weekly data to be as accurate as possible, and for the total figures to only be updated once we know when and where VGC is over/under tracking. VGC is for more than just keeping track of the totals.

The front page could probably do with a context link though. Just something small under the totals graph leading to a page explaining how VGC do things and why. Would probably help prevent a lot of drama (or at the very least make it easier to wrap it up).

They said over 10m, though. And it's not like this occasion was the only one where you were massively off with PS4.