| Cool! | 326 | 73.26% | |
| Not cool... | 119 | 26.74% | |
| Total: | 445 | ||
Yakuzaice said:
VGC shows sales for 97 Wii U games versus 53 PS4 games. Also with the recent adjustments it seems the PS4 passed the Wii U in software sales on the week Madden released. It is now 23% ahead in lifetime software sales. |
served!
Yakuzaice said:
VGC shows sales for 97 Wii U games versus 53 PS4 games. Also with the recent adjustments it seems the PS4 passed the Wii U in software sales on the week Madden released. It is now 23% ahead in lifetime software sales. |
On the spot. Plus digital gaming in huge in PS4. We are only using retail data here.
| Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
That is an extremely naive way of understanding how any buisness operates. Every business in existence spends Money to make Money. Nintendo is no exception, paying for exclusive is no exception. To suggest that no money is made by spending money is extremely shortsighted. There is a reason there is a difference between gross profit and actual profit. Hell every console in existence was intially sold, manufactured, and distributed at a loss. Furthermore, it has inexplicitly been proven that Sony and Microsoft profit off a third party regardless of how much they've spent on it. If Sony spends 100$ to get 3rd parties and gets 1000$ in return, its better business than Nintendo who saved 100$ to loose 1000$. Do the math, thats +900 vs -900. Money not invested is Money wasted, that is bad for buisness. |
This is just your opinion. The facts state otherwise. Also, let me remind you that the original Wii sold at a profit on day one.
Paying for exclusivity only leads to a industry that expects manufacturers to pay in the future. It's not a very lucrative business model. When running a business, you want your investments to be a low as possible. Sony and Microsoft are struggling in that regard, despite what you say. You can sit here and say anything, but the facts will remain the same.
Also, Iwata once said himself, "Following and imitating others is the kind of reasoning that Nintendo tries to avoid the most, and while we certainly do not have a negative attitude toward strengthening our ties with third-party publishers, employing the same methodology as the other manufacturers would only lead to the most simplistic competitive approaches, such as price wars or money-giving that would never end. We would like to take a unique approach of our own and build sustainable relationships with our third-party publishers."
That's exactly what's happening now with the Xbone. Microsoft has been money-hatting 3rd party developers such as Crystal Dynamics while simultaneously dropping the price of the Xbone in the UK. As you can see, it's not helping it in the slightest. All-the-while, Microsoft is losing billions of dollars on their Xbox brand and are rumored to be considering the possibility of a spin-off.
TheBlackNaruto said:
But that still makes no sense because what 95%(not literally but you know what I mean) of the games on the Wii U are only on the Wii U so that just makes it seem like you are trying to give the edge to the Wii U. Also the Wii U currently has almost twice s many games as the PS4 if I am not msitaken so it easily has an advatage in games. Heck if the comparission was done the way you want it to be done it would be like 6 vs 60 or something like that(exclusives) where as incucing every game it is more like 51 or 52 vs 93 or 94(51-52 is PS4) so I guess while I seee your point it is just as asinine as the one you seem to be upset about. Yet atleast with the current comparission it takes nothing out and is all inclusive so it makes more sense IMO> |
The PS4 has had far more releases this year than the Wii U had. Also consider that the PC has more exclusives than any console, and it has mostly all of the multiplats, but no one is comparing their console to it.
Destiny released on the PS4 while not releasing on the Wii U. Would you compare the total copies sold of Destiny on the PS4 as opposed to the total copies of Destiny sold on the Wii U?
QuintonMcLeod said:
This is just your opinion. The facts state otherwise. Also, let me remind you that the original Wii sold at a profit on day one. Paying for exclusivity only leads to a industry that expects manufacturers to pay in the future. It's not a very lucrative business model. When running a business, you want your investments to be a low as possible. Sony and Microsoft are struggling in that regard, despite what you say. You can sit here and say anything, but the facts will remain the same. Also, Iwata once said himself, "Following and imitating others is the kind of reasoning that Nintendo tries to avoid the most, and while we certainly do not have a negative attitude toward strengthening our ties with third-party publishers, employing the same methodology as the other manufacturers would only lead to the most simplistic competitive approaches, such as price wars or money-giving that would never end. We would like to take a unique approach of our own and build sustainable relationships with our third-party publishers." That's exactly what's happening now with the Xbone. Microsoft has been money-hatting 3rd party developers such as Crystal Dynamics while simultaneously dropping the price of the Xbone in the UK. As you can see, it's not helping it in the slightest. All-the-while, Microsoft is losing billions of dollars on their Xbox brand and are rumored to be considering the possibility of a spin-off. |
No this is fact.
"sold, manufactured, and distributed at a loss." refers to day zero. Nintendo did not make money until they started selling the Wii. They did not make money, by manfacturing, distributing, and Advertising the Wii they made money by selling it.
But obviously it cost them money to produce Wiis.
Furthermore, you're so caught up in Nintendo's PR, that you cannot even fathom that Nintendo is on the level of earthly companies and has to spend money to make money.
That is not an opinion, and if you think that is an opinion, you are not only wrong, but you have zero idea how buisness works.
You keep trying to futily tie lost money to courting third parties. When there is a lot more to consider than just money hatting when considering third party relations.
Keeping investments low just for the sake of keeping them low is asinine. Nobody with any sense structures investment and purchase of capital that way.
Not Nintendo, Not Sony, Not Microsoft, not anyone who has any idea what they are doing.
You are just wrong.
You aren't concerned with understanding or learning you only care about being right which clearly doesn't make any sense here, because what you believe is clearly divorced from reality.
Its clear you have a lack of perspective here because if you had a more realistic one than you wouldn't be desperatly trying to link the PS4's software sales due to money they lost for other reasons. Newsflash, The Wii U is in a very shitty place right now, it wasted a year, its third party is nonexistant, and Nintendo is struggling to convince people that the console would surpass GC sales.
Investing in third parties is building third party support, whether it is enticing them with userbase, including hardware in the system comparable to the competition, and even flat out paying them is doing what Iwata said "Building a sustainable relationship with 3rd party publishers". CLEARLY, Nintendo hasn't done any of that.
And the only one spouting Opinions here Is you.
It is impossible for you to comprehend other wise because your mind is so locked in your own preconceptions that you can't admit any mistakes made by Nintendo. What's wrong with some Nintendo fans today? Wii seriously must have gotten to your heads. Growing up with 64 and GC, I at least knew Nintendo was trying. If you can't admit the problem, there is no way you can think of fixing it.
And regardless of what you think, the fact is "PS4's total software sales surpass those of the Wii U", there is no rationale way one could concieve this as a good thing for the Wii U. Rather than defending the Wii U by saying oh, they are doing buisness better because they are keeping their investments low, you could address the problem.
Seriously, Its like your physically and emotionally incapable of even comprehending Nintendo making a mistake. Cheerleaders aren't going to help the Wii U get more sales.
In this day and age, with the Internet, ignorance is a choice! And they're still choosing Ignorance! - Dr. Filthy Frank
PS4 retail software now at 36m
Wii U retail software now at 29m
It's fairly blown it out of the water software wise in the first 10 months.
Well PS4 also has a large amount of games, whereas Wii U has games by Nintendo selling, and occasionally a Sonic or Skylanders game that sells well
XBOX ONE/Wii U/3DS/PC
RIP Iwata 12/6/1959-7/11/2015
Thanks for all the great memories!
| DarkRPGamer007 said: Well PS4 also has a large amount of games, whereas Wii U has games by Nintendo selling, and occasionally a Sonic or Skylanders game that sells well |
have we not been told for the last 10 months that the PS4 and X1 have no games? Which is it lol
Kerotan said:
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They do have games, none worth buying a console for though other than inFamous and maybe Titanfall. What's the point of upgrading when everything is practically the same on your last gen console?
XBOX ONE/Wii U/3DS/PC
RIP Iwata 12/6/1959-7/11/2015
Thanks for all the great memories!
DarkRPGamer007 said:
They do have games, none worth buying a console for though other than inFamous and maybe Titanfall. What's the point of upgrading when everything is practically the same on your last gen console? |
i disagree. i've a big game library and play it every single day. this xmas i won't be getting all the games i like because i'm getting enough as it is.
edit: the wii u to most people has no games worth getting it for. hench why people are not buying it in big numbers. if i was to generalize and say which has no games i'd say the wii u. just depends what you're into and it just so happens most people are into the nice games library the ps4/x1 has and will continue to have.
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