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Vena on 26 September 2014
TheWPCTraveler said:
Wait, you're telling me that they made a profit on WiiWare?!

So, they passed the sales threshold and actually got money from Ninty every single time?

Wow. Shin'en has earned my respect.


Wouldn't surprise me if Nintendo treats them better than general third-party devs that aren't on contract. They have been on good terms for a long time and happily let Shin'en play around with dev tools to their liking.



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hsrob on 26 September 2014
KingCherry said:
They take no risks, they just churn out cheap, nondescript shovelware which Nintendo lightly promotes making a slim profit.

Regardless, making proft EVERY time is impressive now matter how they are doing it.



TheLegendaryWolf on 26 September 2014
the_dengle said:
KingCherry said:
They take no risks, they just churn out cheap, nondescript shovelware which Nintendo lightly promotes making a slim profit.

They are making games exclusively for Wii U, which seems to be a much larger risk than most multi-million dollar publishers are willing to take.

Agreed. For multi-million dollar publishers put little to no effort on NIntendo platforms while an independent developer is able to churn out profits even from Wiiware of all places.



curl-6 on 27 September 2014
TheLegendaryWolf said:
the_dengle said:

They are making games exclusively for Wii U, which seems to be a much larger risk than most multi-million dollar publishers are willing to take.

Agreed. For multi-million dollar publishers put little to no effort on NIntendo platforms while an independent developer is able to churn out profits even from Wiiware of all places.

And churn out profits while doing better graphics than the majority of the multi-million dollar publishers.



vivster on 27 September 2014

If you produce your games for 2 dollars, you can make a hefty 1 dollar profit. If Nintendo gives you 3 dollars to put it on Wii U.



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AZWification on 27 September 2014

Good for Shin' en!



                
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the_dengle on 27 September 2014
vivster said:
If you produce your games for 2 dollars, you can make a hefty 1 dollar profit. If Nintendo gives you 3 dollars to put it on Wii U.

Are you suggesting that zero people buy Shin'en's games, and that Nintendo pays them $1.50 on the dollar to develop all of their games?

That would make Shin'en employees of Nintendo, and it would mean all of their games are published by Nintendo. We would know if either of those things were the case.

So, actually, Nintendo pays them nothing to make games for the Wii U, and more than enough people buy their games for them to make back their development costs, and Nintendo also profits from this relationship by collecting royalties. This is a pretty normal, healthy publisher-platform holder relationship.

TL;DR version: If you produce your game for $330,000, you can make a hefty $1,000,000 profit. If you sell over 100,000 copies of your game to Nintendo gamers at $15 apiece.



vivster on 27 September 2014
the_dengle said:
vivster said:
If you produce your games for 2 dollars, you can make a hefty 1 dollar profit. If Nintendo gives you 3 dollars to put it on Wii U.

Are you suggesting that zero people buy Shin'en's games, and that Nintendo pays them $1.50 on the dollar to develop all of their games?

That would make Shin'en employees of Nintendo, and it would mean all of their games are published by Nintendo. We would know if either of those things were the case.

So, actually, Nintendo pays them nothing to make games for the Wii U, and more than enough people buy their games for them to make back their development costs, and Nintendo also profits from this relationship by collecting royalties. This is a pretty normal, healthy publisher-platform holder relationship.

TL;DR version: If you produce your game for $330,000, you can make a hefty $1,000,000 profit. If you sell over 100,000 copies of your game to Nintendo gamers at $15 apiece.

Actually I meant it literally. But nevermind.



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the_dengle on 27 September 2014
vivster said:
the_dengle said:
vivster said:
If you produce your games for 2 dollars, you can make a hefty 1 dollar profit. If Nintendo gives you 3 dollars to put it on Wii U.

Are you suggesting that zero people buy Shin'en's games, and that Nintendo pays them $1.50 on the dollar to develop all of their games?

That would make Shin'en employees of Nintendo, and it would mean all of their games are published by Nintendo. We would know if either of those things were the case.

So, actually, Nintendo pays them nothing to make games for the Wii U, and more than enough people buy their games for them to make back their development costs, and Nintendo also profits from this relationship by collecting royalties. This is a pretty normal, healthy publisher-platform holder relationship.

TL;DR version: If you produce your game for $330,000, you can make a hefty $1,000,000 profit. If you sell over 100,000 copies of your game to Nintendo gamers at $15 apiece.

Actually I meant it literally. But nevermind.

C'mon man, have a sense of humor.



XanderXT on 27 September 2014

They deserve it, they have great games.