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Qute said:

Alright, then she can use the portal to get rid of the net.

Except Samus will be shooting and running at supersonic speeds. Something that Ratchet never fought or can see. Ratchet trying to use the groovitron when Samus approaches speeds that he can't comprehend. It takes one second for her to travel 343 meters(which is a longer distance than the groovitron's). How long do you think it will take to cross groovitrons short range? Ratchet has never fought on ground against someone who can reach super sonic speeds. Same goes for Sonic since he goes at a faster speed than Samus which Ratchet would need an even faster reaction time. Probably the only reason why the groovitron wasn't destroyed was because no goon ever shot at it. Do you ever see any enemy shoot at it? Even if it was indestructible, it can be frozen, its circuitry can be fried with electricity, or Dark Pit or Pit can cover it with the move darkness Darkness while Samus can switch her visor to infrarred or x-ray and kill people while everyone is blinded by darkness.

I don't see how Fred will stop Sonic. Honestly, Sonic has faced bigger threats such as Dark Gaia, Chaos who flooded the entire world, or Solaris who was destroying the universe. Same goes with Samus who faced so many large threats. Sonic's chaos control can teleport him out of the dimension anyway as I said before.

I respectfully disagree that Ratchet would beat Samus. But lets say he somehow does. He would still be too late for Link, Zelda, and Ganondorf making the wish on the triforce or Shulk using the monado to make PS-All Stars erased from existance.

Enemies can't attack while in the Mag-Net. They're being shocked by it. The video says:

"The ionized orbs will imprison the poor goon in a deadly web of electricity, giving you a supreme tactical advantage."

She won't get to do anything while trapped. She can only pray Fred goes on quick and painless.

Samus and Sonic might be insanely fast, but even with all that speed, Jak can freeze time. They can reach Mach 3 or 4, but when time is stopped, time is stopped. With the time frozen and his Dark Eco powers, he can rip Sonic to shreds like paper. Jak can wear down Samus while the time is frozen, enough to make her vulnerable to any attack Ratchet makes, like The Groovitron, The Mag-Net Cannon, The Rift Ripper 5000, the RYNO V, or a combination. 

Well, if one Groovitron is destroyed, Ratchet can always deploy another one. If it gets frozen, Ratchet can throw another one. And if both of them try to freeze it from a short range, they got another thing coming. Of course, Ratchet won't throw Groovitrons like a madman, but only when he needs it. 

I'll have to give it back at you and respectfully disagree on why samus and the sb would beat Ratchet and the All-Stars.



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samus would smoke kratos, among others handily. so she alone takes care of basically half the roster. i think smash has this one won pretty damn easily. plus, in case you guys havent noticed, mario is a ninja in disguise.



Mr_No said:
Qute said:

Alright, then she can use the portal to get rid of the net.

Except Samus will be shooting and running at supersonic speeds. Something that Ratchet never fought or can see. Ratchet trying to use the groovitron when Samus approaches speeds that he can't comprehend. It takes one second for her to travel 343 meters(which is a longer distance than the groovitron's). How long do you think it will take to cross groovitrons short range? Ratchet has never fought on ground against someone who can reach super sonic speeds. Same goes for Sonic since he goes at a faster speed than Samus which Ratchet would need an even faster reaction time. Probably the only reason why the groovitron wasn't destroyed was because no goon ever shot at it. Do you ever see any enemy shoot at it? Even if it was indestructible, it can be frozen, its circuitry can be fried with electricity, or Dark Pit or Pit can cover it with the move darkness Darkness while Samus can switch her visor to infrarred or x-ray and kill people while everyone is blinded by darkness.

I don't see how Fred will stop Sonic. Honestly, Sonic has faced bigger threats such as Dark Gaia, Chaos who flooded the entire world, or Solaris who was destroying the universe. Same goes with Samus who faced so many large threats. Sonic's chaos control can teleport him out of the dimension anyway as I said before.

I respectfully disagree that Ratchet would beat Samus. But lets say he somehow does. He would still be too late for Link, Zelda, and Ganondorf making the wish on the triforce or Shulk using the monado to make PS-All Stars erased from existance.

Enemies can't attack while in the Mag-Net. They're being shocked by it. The video says:

"The ionized orbs will imprison the poor goon in a deadly web of electricity, giving you a supreme tactical advantage."

She won't get to do anything while trapped. She can only pray Fred goes on quick and painless.

Samus and Sonic might be insanely fast, but even with all that speed, Jak can freeze time. They can reach Mach 3 or 4, but when time is stopped, time is stopped. With the time frozen and his Dark Eco powers, he can rip Sonic to shreds like paper. Jak can wear down Samus while the time is frozen, enough to make her vulnerable to any attack Ratchet makes, like The Groovitron, The Mag-Net Cannon, The Rift Ripper 5000, the RYNO V, or a combination. 

Well, if one Groovitron is destroyed, Ratchet can always deploy another one. If it gets frozen, Ratchet can throw another one. And if both of them try to freeze it from a short range, they got another thing coming. Of course, Ratchet won't throw Groovitrons like a madman, but only when he needs it. 

I'll have to give it back at you and respectfully disagree on why samus and the sb would beat Ratchet and the All-Stars.

Shocking isn't a new experience for Samus. Like I said before, multi-terawatt amount of electricity does low damage to her. How much is multi-terrawatts? Well, to give you an idea the total power used by humans in 2006 world wide is 16 terawatts(16 trillion watts). Yet, the volt-driver is easily capable of shooting terawatts easily. Really, shocking won't stop Samus from shooting.

Jak isn't the only one that can stop time. Toon Link with the Phantom sword can stop time and Sonic himself can stop or slow time with chaos control. And really, Jak isn't going to hurt Sonic anytime soon.

Then that renders the groovitron useless as it will get constantly destroyed when it comes out. Also, Samus here can jump for an infinite amount of times thanks to the space jump, she can literally shoot down shots in the air while Ratchet would have the disadvantage of having to shoot upward.



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Qute said:

Shocking isn't a new experience for Samus. Like I said before, multi-terawatt amount of electricity does low damage to her. How much is multi-terrawatts? Well, to give you an idea the total power used by humans in 2006 world wide is 16 terawatts(16 trillion watts). Yet, the volt-driver is easily capable of shooting terawatts easily. Really, shocking won't stop Samus from shooting.

Jak isn't the only one that can stop time. Toon Link with the Phantom sword can stop time and Sonic himself can stop or slow time with chaos control. And really, Jak isn't going to hurt Sonic anytime soon.

Then that renders the groovitron useless as it will get constantly destroyed when it comes out. Also, Samus here can jump for an infinite amount of times thanks to the space jump, she can literally shoot down shots in the air while Ratchet would have the disadvantage of having to shoot upward.

The Groovitron is indestructible. If it was in the game, an enemy from afar could've shot it.

Impressive that she could manage that shocking amounts of terawatts, but the Mag-Net Cannon will still hold her, even if it's one second, which is enough time for Ratchet to throw the Groovitron and for it to activate. If she breaks out of the electromagnetic net, the floating disco ball will be still there to force her to dance. You want to talk about infinite jumps and speed? The Golden Groovitron can deploy infinite disco balls. Like I said again, they're indestructible. If it were, it would've been destroyed a number of times, making things for Ratchet impossible. But so far, I haven't seen one destroyed.

Sure that Link can control time... if Jak lets him, of course.

I doubt she'll be able to leap far because of the interdimensional rift Ratchet opens with the Rift Ripper 5000. She jumps, and Fred tentacles can just grab ahold of her, pull her into his dimension and devour her.



Mr_No said:
Qute said:

Shocking isn't a new experience for Samus. Like I said before, multi-terawatt amount of electricity does low damage to her. How much is multi-terrawatts? Well, to give you an idea the total power used by humans in 2006 world wide is 16 terawatts(16 trillion watts). Yet, the volt-driver is easily capable of shooting terawatts easily. Really, shocking won't stop Samus from shooting.

Jak isn't the only one that can stop time. Toon Link with the Phantom sword can stop time and Sonic himself can stop or slow time with chaos control. And really, Jak isn't going to hurt Sonic anytime soon.

Then that renders the groovitron useless as it will get constantly destroyed when it comes out. Also, Samus here can jump for an infinite amount of times thanks to the space jump, she can literally shoot down shots in the air while Ratchet would have the disadvantage of having to shoot upward.

The Groovitron is indestructible. If it was in the game, an enemy from afar could've shot it.

Impressive that she could manage that shocking amounts of terawatts, but the Mag-Net Cannon will still hold her, even if it's one second, which is enough time for Ratchet to throw the Groovitron and for it to activate. If she breaks out of the electromagnetic net, the floating disco ball will be still there to force her to dance. You want to talk about infinite jumps and speed? The Golden Groovitron can deploy infinite disco balls. Like I said again, they're indestructible. If it were, it would've been destroyed a number of times, making things for Ratchet impossible. But so far, I haven't seen one destroyed.

Sure that Link can control time... if Jak lets him, of course.

I doubt she'll be able to leap far because of the interdimensional rift Ratchet opens with the Rift Ripper 5000. She jumps, and Fred tentacles can just grab ahold of her, pull her into his dimension and devour her.

You can't destroy it in the game, because it's like other weapons in any game. If enemies could destroy your weapons, how cheap would that be?



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Mr_No said:
Qute said:

Shocking isn't a new experience for Samus. Like I said before, multi-terawatt amount of electricity does low damage to her. How much is multi-terrawatts? Well, to give you an idea the total power used by humans in 2006 world wide is 16 terawatts(16 trillion watts). Yet, the volt-driver is easily capable of shooting terawatts easily. Really, shocking won't stop Samus from shooting.

Jak isn't the only one that can stop time. Toon Link with the Phantom sword can stop time and Sonic himself can stop or slow time with chaos control. And really, Jak isn't going to hurt Sonic anytime soon.

Then that renders the groovitron useless as it will get constantly destroyed when it comes out. Also, Samus here can jump for an infinite amount of times thanks to the space jump, she can literally shoot down shots in the air while Ratchet would have the disadvantage of having to shoot upward.

The Groovitron is indestructible. If it was in the game, an enemy from afar could've shot it.

Impressive that she could manage that shocking amounts of terawatts, but the Mag-Net Cannon will still hold her, even if it's one second, which is enough time for Ratchet to throw the Groovitron and for it to activate. If she breaks out of the electromagnetic net, the floating disco ball will be still there to force her to dance. You want to talk about infinite jumps and speed? The Golden Groovitron can deploy infinite disco balls. Like I said again, they're indestructible. If it were, it would've been destroyed a number of times, making things for Ratchet impossible. But so far, I haven't seen one destroyed.

Sure that Link can control time... if Jak lets him, of course.

I doubt she'll be able to leap far because of the interdimensional rift Ratchet opens with the Rift Ripper 5000. She jumps, and Fred tentacles can just grab ahold of her, pull her into his dimension and devour her.

Or the enemy was too busy attacking Ratchet or was under the effects of the groovitron.

The darkburst is actually capable of sucking things in, so the net and the disco ball will be going too indestructible or not. I don't see how the golden version would be an advantage over the space jump. With the space jump, Samus is basically unreacheable due to the fact that she can basically "fly." It doesn't matter how many disco balls you put out, they have limited range while Samus can just shoot every thing downwards.

I doubt Jak would stop Toon Link from controlling time since Toon Link also has magic armor item, so he doesn't have to worry about attacks.

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This is without the high jump ability and screw attack which will make Samus harder to get and destroy the tentacle. I doubt Fred will devour her even if he got her,  powerbombs will kill Fred and the darkburst and sonic boom will tear him a new one. No more Fred, no more Rift Ripper 5000. Sonic can get her back. Nevermind that Samus can run at supersonic speeds.

Also, no counter to the Triforce or Monado?



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I think we are all underestimating the power of Kirby...he could suck up any attack and shoot it back, or suck up any character and steal their main ability.



Kratos alone with his items/powers in God of War III would be unstoppable, not to mention he becomes pretty much omnipotent by the end of the game.

After he kills the smash bros he'd probably kill the all-stars too just for the reason of breathing his air, he's a madman!





JustThatGamer said:
Kratos alone with his items/powers in God of War III would be unstoppable, not to mention he becomes pretty much omnipotent by the end of the game.

After he kills the smash bros he'd probably kill the all-stars too just for the reason of breathing his air, he's a madman!




We have debunked this so many times it's not even funny...



Why does it have to be explained that an object being indestructible within its own game is not necessarily indestructible by nature?

Most characters' clothes do not sustain visible damage. But that doesn't mean everyone is wearing super armor that is impervious to any kind of attack that can be thrown at them.

This applies to equippable items and to "plot armor." Weapons that are clearly made of metal or even less durable materials have the properties of those materials whether they are exhibited in-game or not.

Ganondorf is only killed by the Master Sword in Zelda, but it's not impossible for another weapon to kill him. He is still a man. There is nothing comparable to Samus' arsenal in the Zelda universe. There are swords and shields, some crude magic with nearly mundane applications, literal God power, and little in-between (highly advanced machines with powerful lasers that... cause an unpleasant burning sensation). Samus has mini-nukes, and the beams that come from her arm cannon are even more powerful than those.

Ultimately, the fun in these pissing contests ought to come from comparing characters with nothing in common. Especially when weirdos like Kirby or Game & Watch get involved.