That's funny Paul is my main as well lol. But I love Bryan and Law too. And Baek I have played with all of characters in every Tekken pretty much. I will have to add you on PSN after I get teh disc drive in my Ps3 fixed it dided last week and will no longer read Blu Ray games or movies only regular DvDs and CDs sadly....

This, pretty much sums up my experience and what I feel about fighing games nowadays. Not even a close friend, who was far superior than me on these kind of games, could help me overcome the steep learning curve of SSFIV. He just told me to practice and practice, but he couldn't fully understand which were my weaknesses were so he kinda gave up on me. Those kind of people who only say "practice, practice and practice" only worry on how good they can do and nothing else. They use a lot of fancy moves and combos while playing, but they can only say "practice". Sure, whatever. SSFIV feels barebones in the practicing aspect.

Also, I agree with you on the first paragraph. Some of the games just won't teach one how to perform the moves. The Trials from SSFIV felt more like a chore rather than a learning experience. And it's true what you've said about Soul Calibur 2. Tutorials like those (or like the ones at DOA5) actually helped me much more on learning the ropes. On the last paragraph, you are totally right about making a game more open and frendlier to beginners. But remember there's the hardcore community which will tirelessly complain on how easy the game is compared to the other ones, or how many beginners are flooding the online lobbies. 

Imagine that, I also play law too but rather than baek I play hwaorang. And Heihachi too, i was all over tekken revolution before i sold my PS3. So now I am on a tekken haitus, patiently waiting for Tekken 7 on the PS4. 

Patiently.

And yh, this thread has become a tekken thread lol.

Simple thread to talk about fighting game's.

We get a handful of fighters released every year and unless your one of those tournament fighter guys, most of us only pick one or two to invest our time in. So the question is how do you go about choosing that fighter?

What are the most important features of a good fighter in your opinion ?

What about fighters turn you off?

Be honet with yourself and be specific ( Dont just say good gameplay)

That's why any developer that takes their game seriously has rankings that move you up and down based on your performance. You won't be seeing too many beginners if you're good enough.

I'm not asking for fighting games to be made easier. I'm saying the games themselves should have competent tutorials or modes that teach you everything you need to know to get better, instead of just throwing you into the fray. Going back to my TvC example, it's a great game. I think it's the SSB Melee to MvC3 being SSB Brawl. But unless you go online and read guides or watch vids on how to use advance techniques, you will never learn them in game. That is an absolute failure on the part of Eighting, the dev who made it.

If I told you about the many times I've faced pros at SSFIV online... I was on the lowest rank, and I still encountered pros. By easy, I meant easy to pick up and slowly develop your skills. Thing is, the lack of tutorials in a game makes it annoyingly hard to pick up. If there are people on Youtube creating specific tutorials on how to adapt to the game's overly complex controllers, you know the developer has missed something.