| drake_tolu said: PS4: 10,000,000 XBOX ONE: 5,000,000 This is domination... |
I completely agree.
All I am saying is this can change.
Holiday 2016.
PS4: 34,000,000
Xbox One: 32,800,000
Now that is what I call closing the gap:)
| drake_tolu said: PS4: 10,000,000 XBOX ONE: 5,000,000 This is domination... |
I completely agree.
All I am saying is this can change.
Holiday 2016.
PS4: 34,000,000
Xbox One: 32,800,000
Now that is what I call closing the gap:)
Zanten said:
But again, though, why? I think the Xbox One has a decent chance (well, better a chance than anywhere else) of catching up to the PS4, even outselling it to a degree, but what you should keep in mind is that the Xbox 360 and PS3 drew level with each other globally only because the Xbox 360 was massively winning in the U.S., and substantially leading in the U.K. Heck, even those big victories, and an over 30 month NPD win streak for the 360, didn't keep the PS3 globally outselling the Xbox 360 month after month, until it had gobbled up the 360's initial lead. Keep in mind, the fact that they're about equal now is only due to a quirk of timing; had the gen been two or three years shorter, the 360 would be the clear winner. Had it been two or three years longer, the PS3 would be the clear winner. It just so happens we're at a point where they're intersecting, before the PS3's higher momentum carried it past the 360 altogether. Dominating the PS4 the same way the 360 dominated the PS3 would require not only a truly massive boost, (which Call of Duty and Halo MCC may indeed provide,) but for the PS4 not to be boosted at all during the holiday season, which is just silly. Keep in mind, the Xbox One could match the PS4's sales in the U.S., even outsell it by 10-20%, and still get dominated globally. It could completely DOUBLE the PS4's sales in the U.S., and still have the global gap get wider and wider in favor of the PS4. The only way we can see the Xbox One even start closing the global gap is if its baseline sales TRIPLE, with no boost whatever to the PS4's baseline, and even then it would take months, if not years, to close the five million gap. Also, when you say outselling the PS4 in America, do you mean 'They will finally win a month,' or do you think November is when the total Xbox One U.S. sales will be higher than the total PS4 sales? Because that seems like a pretty massive long shot. o.o |
That is why I predict by holiday 2016, it won't happen in 6 months not even a year.
I think the Xbox One can win November and December. Come January 2015 the PS4 could take the lead back for maybe 3 or 4 months but
The Xbox One will regain the momentum for the rest of the year.
Once again I am just talking about America.
Jega said:
I completely agree. All I am saying is this can change. Holiday 2016. PS4: 34,000,000 Xbox One: 32,800,000 Now that is what I call closing the gap:) |
LMAO your imagination is awesome.
thats what i call living of hopes.
CGI-Quality said:
Jega, Jega, Jega - it doesn't matter what area of this gen you're referring to. Your assumptions/theories/guesses make no sense. Just look very closely at your view - you predict a similar outcome in the US to last gen - without anything that really explains how this can come to pass. I, on the other hand, predict no such thing will happen. Why? The 360 launched with a much lower price, a year headstart, and had nothing of a stigma like the X1 has (even with the RRoD fiasco). This is on top of the fact that 3rd parties were on board with the 360 in a way they aren't with the X1, unlike the PS4 (not to mention, better performing multiplats are all on PS4 and the shooter crowd seems to have moved over as well). Your move. |
Becasue he sees it like that, thats why. X1 will magiclally recover well becasue he thinks it will.
Or has his hopes rubbed of and you are expecting an actual arguemnt using logic and not feels.
Maciveli said:
X1 bundles already prove a 350 cut would do nothing . And would be no where near big enough cut to maybe sale even with PS4. Seems you fail to understand PS4 is a in demend liked product X1 is not, mass media and consumer negetivity just never truely go away. Peopel did spread the word and it sunk x1 sales. If you think this over logicaly and set aside your emotions youd see its not gonna happen, There sjust is nothing MS can really do that PS cant counter. X1 price cut okPS4 cuts to 299, thats the last thing MS want. To compete with a 299 PS4. Exclusves lol ok, PS has more of them has more proven devs and has more third party support . So PS has more gaems, so your Xbox will have game goes out the window. I "can" walk on the moon and or kill people, thats about as likely as X1 outselling the PS4. Now think about what it means when you say it can. |
It is just one week and I didn't want to bring it up. But you do know the Xbox One Just outsold the PS4 in america by a small margin.
The way I see it this is just the beginning.
In my opinion this gen will be jus like last gen except for Nintendo.
| Jega said: It is just one week and I didn't want to bring it up. But you do know the Xbox One Just outsold the PS4 in america by a small margin. The way I see it this is just the beginning. In my opinion this gen will be jus like last gen except for Nintendo. |
Many have made the same arguemnt many times, then adjustments happen and lol well they wasted their time.
Opinions is worthless with out intelligent facts backing them.
| Azzanation said: The problem with gaming today is the media that feeds the fanboys. There's nothing wrong with any of the consoles, they all offer different benefits and different games. If I want the best Platformers ill buy a WiiU, if I want the best Action Adventure ill buy a PS4 if I want the best Sci-fi shooters ill get a XB1, if I want the best RTS ill buy a PC. Fanboys want other consoles to fail yet having other brands fall gives them no benefits. All they care about is there preferred choice. MS goofed up with the PR on the XB1 and the media and Sony are taking full advantage of it. Honestly someone tell me why the PS4 is destroying the XB1 in sales when both consoles lack serious quality games? Marketing is a strong force and to call out a winner this early is just stupid. PS3 started slow and was 1 year behind the 360 and they manage to turn that system around. XB1 is having a slow start and is 1 year behind the PS4 if you consider that the XB1 isn't available world wide (13 countries compared to 72+). Remember when Sony claimed the PS3 to be twice the power of the 360 and they told everyone if they cant afford the PS3 then they should get 2 jobs. Sony changed because of MS and MS are changing now because of Sony. They need each other to be successful or it will just be a dominate Nintendo and PC market. |
That will never happen. If Sony and MS leave the market without someone taking there place most gamers would go PC only and not bother with Nintendo.
small44 said:
If they expect Mincraft to be a huge system seller they are wrong but still the games sold a lot so they will make huge money software wise with it |
I am not going to debate wether minecraft can push consoles or not as I know very little about minecraft other than it has sold a ton.
I don't think microsoft bought them to sell software though.
Microsoft wants to sell those Xbox Ones thats what I know.
Time will tell if this buyout pays off.
Ninsect said:
PS4 sales in 2014: 5.8m X1 sales in 2014: 2.1m That's almost 3:1 this year The gap is widening
" whatever they had to do they practically is neck and neck with sony in every territory except for japan and mainland europe" -Like where? The only place where it's remotely close is the US. |
I was talking about the Xbox 360.
Sorry I didn't make that clear in my post.
Jega said:
That is why I predict by holiday 2016, it won't happen in 6 months not even a year. I think the Xbox One can win November and December. Come January 2015 the PS4 could take the lead back for maybe 3 or 4 months but The Xbox One will regain the momentum for the rest of the year. Once again I am just talking about America. |
Let me put it this way. Your idea of the Xbox One closing the global gap requires, obviously, the Xbox One to start outselling the PS4 in global numbers, either by a GIANT number one month, or a more reasonably number for multiple months, right? So, obviously, you expect the Xbox One's sales in the U.S. to triple those of the PS4 on a regular, constant basis, since as I mentioned, it is the only conceivable way the Xbox One can accomplish higher global sales. Even if the Xbox One sells twice as many U.S. consoles as PS4, the global gap will not shrink, it will in fact get bigger in the PS4's favor. So you need Xbox One sales- and I mean, every single month- to triple those of the PS4 to even start closing the global gap.
Call of Duty will not accomplish this. It WILL give a big boost, a very big boost, but it won't increase the baseline, because there's a finite number of Call of Duty fanatics who base their console choice solely on which has earlier DLC. =P Even if Advanced Warfare brings those people over (which I doubt,) you'll see a big, big surge in sales on Advanced Warfare's release, before dropping back to normal levels. Same goes with Halo; big boost, but finite number of fans. The same can be said for ANY pre-established franchise, on both sides, as the people who upgrade 'Just For This Franchise' are relatively limited compared to those who look at the wider picture.
You made an excellent point when you said that the diehard fans only account for so many sales. But your mistake is assuming that the console-neutral, or outright casual, people will flock to the Xbox One in numbers larger than the PS4. Right now, PS4 has the better PR, the better image, is being seen as the 'winner' by anyone who does even a tiny bit of research, and if you have no personal attachment or prior interest in Xbox OR Playstation franchises, then you're more likely to go with whatever side has more raw content. Which, right now, is Playstation. Going Xbox is literally going AGAINST the consumer 'flow,' and is most often done because people simply have more interest in Xbox's lineup of exclusives, their IPs and franchises... which is only a judgement call one can make if they've already played them.
And your last thread, about how more Playstation owners were bored with their PS3s, and more Xbox 360 owners were satisfied, was ridiculous. =P Of the two consoles, the PS3 wasn't the one whose exclusive titles dried up to the same three franchises over four years.
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