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LudicrousSpeed said:
the-pi-guy said:
LudicrousSpeed said:

Can gamers tell the difference?

Killzone 6 confirms to me that no, seems most cannot.

SP - 1080p.  

MP - 1080p using a few different frames to put together that image: that a few gamers complained about not looking as good as the SP, was originally attributed to a bad AA solution. 

Not native. And a very small amount of people said it looks blurry, but still believed it was native 1080p as Sony had told them. So like I said, "seems most cannot".

You answered a question that asks if gamers can tell the difference 720p to 1080p by pointing out how most people can't see the difference between native 1080p and temporal 1080p... That answer would work... if Jega asked if gamers can tell the difference between native and temporal 1080p, in which he didn't.

OT: Difference between 720p and 1080p is night and day. It's very easy to tell the difference.



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the-pi-guy said:
Chris Hu said:

Could be I'm near sighted and even with glasses I don't have 20/20 vision as do most people that wear glasses.  On top of that I only have on TV set where the difference would be easy to spot all my other sets a 32 inches or less.

I'm near sighted as well.  Without my glasses I would barely be able to tell the difference between 480i and 1080p.  With my glasses there's a huge difference.  

And like Ninsect said, distance matters too.  My monitor right now is a little bit higher resolution than 720p, but because of how close I am to it, I can pretty much see pixels (with my glasses on).  Can't make out any words without my glasses though.  


Size of the screen makes a bigger difference then viewing distance though.  The bigger the screen the easier it to tell the difference when it comes to resolution.



Saying you can't tell the difference is just a method of justifying purchase of an inferior version. Its not the differences themselves that make them unnoticable, its whether or not their prefered platform has the advantage.

That explains why the difference are so hard to tell this gen, despite being much bigger.

CIP:  If I made a thread called The Xbox Advantage. Can Gamers Tell the Difference between 704p and 720p?

The difference would magically appear.



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Chris Hu said:
the-pi-guy said:
Chris Hu said:

Could be I'm near sighted and even with glasses I don't have 20/20 vision as do most people that wear glasses.  On top of that I only have on TV set where the difference would be easy to spot all my other sets a 32 inches or less.

I'm near sighted as well.  Without my glasses I would barely be able to tell the difference between 480i and 1080p.  With my glasses there's a huge difference.  

And like Ninsect said, distance matters too.  My monitor right now is a little bit higher resolution than 720p, but because of how close I am to it, I can pretty much see pixels (with my glasses on).  Can't make out any words without my glasses though.  


Size of the screen makes a bigger difference then viewing distance though.  The bigger the screen the easier it to tell the difference when it comes to resolution.

Huh? Viewing distance directly influences the relative size of the image of the screen on your retina.



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It depends on a screen size (pixel size) and distance.
I can't see the difference on 40in FullHD TV from 4 meter distance.
I can see the difference on 55in FullHD TV from 3.2-3.5 m distance. The picture is sharper and more clear. The difference is so huge.



the-pi-guy said:
Chris Hu said:

Size of the screen makes a bigger difference then viewing distance though.  The bigger the screen the easier it to tell the difference when it comes to resolution.

No, they are both pretty much equally important.  

Stand 2000 feet away and it won't matter if its a 15" TV or a 75" TV.  


With computer monitors size probably doesn't make a huge difference since you usually sit very close to them but with TV's size makes a huge difference.  Plus with sets smaller then 32 inches you pretty much need to have perfect vision to see a noticable difference between 720p and 1080p regardless of viewing distance.



The problem with the OP is that the differences aren't limited to just resolution. Other aspects like framerate, ambient occlusion, texture resolution (which is independent from display resolution, mind you), lighting, and anti-aliasing should also be taken into account. As a result, the difference between the PS4 and X1 is not only attributed to resolution, but a combination of that and other aspects mentioned above. The cumulative disparity ultimately makes the difference between the PS4 and X1 versions of a same game pretty noticeable.



I don't get ops like this. Are you in some sort of life long contract with MS?



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It doesn't matter if people can tell the difference or not. People already have the perception that PS4 is the stronger of the two consoles. For the average consumer who buys consoles to play some multiplatform games and not exclusives they will hear that the PS4 runs a game at 1080p while XOne runs the same game at 720/900p. At that point they'll just pick up the PS4 simply because if we are given an option of nearly identical products, we will by default go for the one which is just slightly better even if we can't exactly tell how much better it is. This is just human nature.

Last gen a similar thing happened with the 360. Everyone assumed that Xbox Live was just better than PSN even though PSN was free and the difference honestly wasn't that big apart from party chat. But the perception was built and that's why for a lot of the casuals who played things like COD online, 360 was the choice whether or not the difference with PSN was minuscule or not.