Like all theese great ps3 games http://www.vgchartz.com/platform/3/playstation-3/ 

Or like all theese great 360 games who toped the charts http://www.vgchartz.com/platform/7/xbox-360/ 

Fact is, that each has at most 2 games unike to them who toped list. Everithing else was a multyplat, that was not on wii because it did not look preety. Is that what a hardcore console is to you, A box with preetier images? If that where true, then forget current gen and lets all just play on pc.

So very true!

But i see it as easily explained.

Both wii and PS4 became darlings in the mass media, kinda original iphone love type situation.  It is why both sold/selling even if their software lineups were questionable by much of the hardcore gamer community.

I never called it inferior.  I owned a Wii for the regular games, but most of its audience was fickle casuals as WiiU sales have shown and the 4 generations of Nintendo (home) consoles before that (never got close to 100m).  It was an anomaly as I said and the market should not be seen as collapsing just because Nintendo goes in decline.

You need to look at why the PS3 and 360 continued to sell after the Wii finally started dropping off. The answer is in the software support. Nintendo pretty much abandoned the Wii during 2011 (It still sold over 11.5 Million units this Year) to focus on the release of Wii U in 2012 and the early struggles we saw from 3DS.

With no Nintendo support, the Wii was doomed to have a quick death as the 3rd party efforts on the machine simply werent good enough or frequent enough to keep it afloat for X Years.

There is no denying that the Wii thrived due to the expanded market of gamers, but to try exclude the Wii from any comparisons just because of the success they had is simply wrong, especially when you look at what Sony and Microsoft both did to get in on the action to expand the life of their respective consoles.

The size of the market was expanded thanks to Nintendos efforts.

Sony and Microsoft both jumped on board and got boosts from it with Move and Kinect. The main problem we are seeing now with that market disappearing is because they arent being supported in a meaningful way and havent been since Gen 8 was actually announced with Wii U in mid-2011.

Bolded - Name the games. Bring up the significant Wii releases post-2010.

LIke I kept saying, they looked better and played the same so of course it will sell better on hd consoles. But since I only have the 360 page looking at right now, how many of those late console releases toped the chartz? Call of duty wich is always up there on xbox, halo 4 and GTA5. Those are the only late gen games to even come close to the numbers you sugested. So did 360 also sold a lot worst in late gen? 

I agree the Wii shouldn't be ignored. It probably will remain the fastest selling console in history, and if PS4 would end up lower in sales than the Wii than nobody will deny the fact. However if you want to compare an entire generation, i think it's important to count in the fact that a lot of Wii buyers aren't regulars in the gaming community.

And i think when most developers are interested in the growing or shrinking of install bases of home consoles, they will mostly focus on Playstation and Xbox.

This is why I said significant. The fact that you had to list Poképark 2, Pandora's Tower, The Last Story and a JP only MMO as significant exclusive releases highlights what I previously said. Combined they managed to shift a total of ~9.8 Million units lifetime, with M&S 2012/ Zelda doing over 70% of that total.

Compare it to 2010, where Wii Party alone managed over 8 Million units. Nevermind whatever Super Mario Galaxy 2 did or what Donkey Kong Country Returns did, among the smaller Million sellers released for the machine.

The fact is that developers (including Nintendo) simply stopped developing significant Wii games sometime during 2010. The '11 and '12 release schedules being as barebones as they were for extended periods of time is proof of that. While the Wii was still topping the charts in 2009/10, developers completely abandoned the machine for whatever reason. It wasnt the Wii audience shifting away, it was a total lack of quality, significant releases for the Wii audience to play.

Oh I didn't even see this thread.

Here's some aligned YTD numbers. They help show the PS4 an XBOX ONE had amazing launches.

Wii: 8.30

PS4: 5.64

PS3: 3.33* includes European launch

360: 3.13

PS3: 2.5ish* excludes European launch

XBO: 1.94

Wii U: 1.14

DS and 3DS numbers are far closer than i thought. Also, i didn't realise PS4 was THAT successful. The Wii was very successful at first.