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Forums - Gaming - Xbox One Parity Clause Is ‘Brutal’, Dev Explains Why Their Game Is Not Coming On Xbox One

Machiavellian on 04 September 2014

Did anyone actually read the article?? You talk about hyping up a non issue!!



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okr on 04 September 2014

*Checks game, you play as a toddler?, intriguing, 19.99€?, no way, added to Steam wishlist, waits for pricedrop*



Zackasaurus-rex on 04 September 2014

Krillbrite Studios have my respect for speaking out about this atrocious issue.



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Egann on 04 September 2014
jnemesh said:
Arkaign said:
Egann said:
The parity clause has never made sense. "It's on someone else's system? WELL IT CAN'T BE HERE! NYUK NYUK NYUK.

It just feels like infantile bullying. Microsoft knows this content won't make them money,. So rather than try to foster a solid marketplace MS holds their breath and turn blue. You have *not* put a ring on it; business partners are not romantic partners and have no reason to be faithful to you. And with the PS4 selling like it is, indy devs will just say "you know what? I don't have to mess with your bullshit."

True, it's great for the market at large that they are losing so badly. Considering the global sales rates (more than 3:1 in favor of PS4 in 2014), there is less and less reason to even bother releasing XB1 software. Sales in Europe are so bad (and Japan joining in the fun now) that stores have already cut shelf space for XB1, and completely dropping it wouldn't make much of an impact at all.

Although I anger some by saying things like this, I honestly believe that if MS doesn't improve their sales SIGNIFICANTLY by the end of the year, they will probably kill it off.  They are losing money on it, and Nadella has already said that it's not part of Microsoft's "Core", so how long do you think the board and shareholders will tolerate it in third place?  How long will they tolerate the negative PR that the Xbox generates?

The real question is if that would help at all. The PS4 launched ridiculously strong with no sign of stopping and the Wii U looks like it will have its act together come this Christmas. By comparison, Microsoft had to basically buy Tomb Raider at the last minute just to have a AAA release for next Christmas. I imagine that Bloodborne and Miyazaki's cult following will actually ship about as many PS4 units Q1-2 2015 as the timed Tomb Raider exclusive over Christmas will with the X1, and Zelda will probably do double both of them.

The parity clause is a pain, but when I look at it and the X1, I can't help but feel like it is a really DINKY issue compared to the console's problems.



cpg716 on 05 September 2014
rayearth said:
cpg716 said:
Burek said:
MS is no longer in a position of power to dictate terms to indie developers, so the parity clause will disappear very soon...


They have to power to do whatever they want.. Sorry.. Indie games are NOT system sellers.  It is the benefit of the Indie developer to be on X1.. NOT Microsoft.. They are allowing indies to SELF publish and use all the resources a big developer can, and sending many developers FREE dev kits..  If you are sending FREE stuff to developers, might you NOT want something in return?  It sure wont be a huge cut of money.. as most indie games sell for $15 or less..  and don't sell in great numbers..  

Would you rather have 15 million audience or 10 million? That is the choice of the developer.

What a load of BS. blocking a release if it isn't simultaneous with others is pathetic and won't ge MS anything.

Most won't take their time to include xone within their first release, they'll simply ignore the it.

As someone else stated. Considering the past like 7 Indie titles that came out on the X1 over the past two months debuted on the PS4.  This really is something that is barely going on. If the game is quality, Microsoft is forgetting the parity clause. They said from the beginning it would be a case by case basis.   If only quality Indie titles make it over in the first year or 2 of ID@Xbox then that is a good thing.  When THERE are few games available on both systems I would rather not fill it with crappy games that leave a bad taste in gamers mouths.  That is how you ruin an experience.



XBLive: cpg716     PSN ID: cpg716  Steam: Luv4Tech77

Predictions on 12/01/15 - Generation 8 Totals:

PS4: 85-95m
X1: 55-65m
WiiU: 20-30m

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rayearth on 05 September 2014
cpg716 said:
rayearth said:

What a load of BS. blocking a release if it isn't simultaneous with others is pathetic and won't ge MS anything.

Most won't take their time to include xone within their first release, they'll simply ignore the it.

As someone else stated. Considering the past like 7 Indie titles that came out on the X1 over the past two months debuted on the PS4.  This really is something that is barely going on. If the game is quality, Microsoft is forgetting the parity clause. They said from the beginning it would be a case by case basis.   If only quality Indie titles make it over in the first year or 2 of ID@Xbox then that is a good thing.  When THERE are few games available on both systems I would rather not fill it with crappy games that leave a bad taste in gamers mouths.  That is how you ruin an experience.

It's not a good thing. this isn't supposed to be a case by case thing, it's business. not letting a game release on your system for no reason at all is beyond pathetic.



cpg716 on 05 September 2014
rayearth said:
cpg716 said:
rayearth said:

What a load of BS. blocking a release if it isn't simultaneous with others is pathetic and won't ge MS anything.

Most won't take their time to include xone within their first release, they'll simply ignore the it.

As someone else stated. Considering the past like 7 Indie titles that came out on the X1 over the past two months debuted on the PS4.  This really is something that is barely going on. If the game is quality, Microsoft is forgetting the parity clause. They said from the beginning it would be a case by case basis.   If only quality Indie titles make it over in the first year or 2 of ID@Xbox then that is a good thing.  When THERE are few games available on both systems I would rather not fill it with crappy games that leave a bad taste in gamers mouths.  That is how you ruin an experience.

It's not a good thing. this isn't supposed to be a case by case thing, it's business. not letting a game release on your system for no reason at all is beyond pathetic.

But its not "no reason at all". That is your opinion, but not the truth. So that is where your logic is faulty. There are several reason, some of which I listed already. 



XBLive: cpg716     PSN ID: cpg716  Steam: Luv4Tech77

Predictions on 12/01/15 - Generation 8 Totals:

PS4: 85-95m
X1: 55-65m
WiiU: 20-30m

Danman27 on 05 September 2014

The title is super misleading, but it does still bring up a good point. If microsoft wants the indie market to come to their consoles, they need to allow indies to launch their games on other consoles first. Microsoft's parity clause is going to end up hurting Microsoft more than anyone.