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Pillow on 04 September 2014

a) 3rd party games doesn't matter for Xbox1 sales, because everyone is going to get the superior PS4 version that comes on cheaper hardware. It is a known fact and we've seen it in sales already.

b) Destiny won't be as big as you think it is on the Xbox1, all the hype is going on for the PS4 version atm.

c) Halo vs Smash bros / Remaster vs new game / Little hyped vs HUGE hyped game.

End of story: the gap won't be closed, at least this year, Smash has too much hype going on and I see little to no one talking about Xbox1 upcoming games, let it be forums or in real life.

Halo 5 might shift a lot of consoles if MS can create hype for the game and sustain it over a long period of time...



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Iknowurmom on 04 September 2014

Beating the wii-u is like winning the special Olympics, you are still retarded.



Ertai on 04 September 2014

XBO will not catch up until 2015.

Deal with it.

XBO is not selling in the EU, so I doubt the US market is enough to close the gap so soon...



Normchacho on 04 September 2014

eeehhh that might be a bit of a stretch. There is already a gap of slightly more than 2 million so it will need at least 3 million sales even without the WiiU selling. You also seem to assume that the Xbox One will sell as well as the WiiU in November even with Smash coming out.

I just don't think the Xbox One will be able to do it. It might outsell the WiiU over the course of the holidays but I
'd be willing to bet that the WiiU is still ahead come January 1st.



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Nirvana_Nut85 on 04 September 2014
Seece said:
Nirvana_Nut85 said:
Seece said:
Fusioncode said:
XBO should pass WiiU by the end of the year. Won't be a million ahead though.

I reckon 1m+ shipped ahead, but sales of around 500k ahead.


Can't see that happening. Those numbers are a pipe dream at best. XBO will not outsell the Wii U by 2.6 million (if we go by current VGC #'s) or 2.3million (If the Wii U is overtracked by 300k) from now until the end of December. 

The Wii U last year sold nearly 2 million from September to end of Decemeber 2013 last year. With  better bundles, baseline and Smash in November, they should be able to move 3.5 million consoles (sold) in that time frame whereas I cannot see XBO exceeding 4.5 million (which is still respectable sales). 

The Wii U should be able to maintain it's lead at least until Sping of 2015.

See you call it a pipe dream but out estimates are not that different from one another.

This Q MS will ship around 1.6m+ whilst WiiU around 600k (both could do more) so the shipment gap will be null going into October.

Over the holidays I see MS being a little up yoy thanks to more aggressive moves in the US, October and other countries, so like you, 4.5m. But I only see around 3m for WiiU. Either way it gives XB1 a 1.5m shipped lead which means an inevitable sales lead.

I can't see the Wii U selling less than 3.5 million this holiday. As I stated earlier, they have a significantly stronger holiday lineup (Smash & MK8 along with better bundles), more momentum that the previous holiday and we have yet to see the Ammibo effect.

As for shipments  the Wii U only shipping 600k  doesn't seem realistic this quarter, considering  it is already nearing 500k in sales since June 30th and ahead of the XBO momentarily. I don't forsee sales of the XBO reaching more than 400k for this month and Wii U less than 250k - 300k, which would put the XBO ahead by 100k or so for the quarter. 

I guess if M$ over stuff retailers and their stores they could ship 1.6 mill but I can't see the Nintendo shipping under 1 million globally either.



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Seece on 04 September 2014
Nirvana_Nut85 said:
Seece said:
Nirvana_Nut85 said:
Seece said:
Fusioncode said:
XBO should pass WiiU by the end of the year. Won't be a million ahead though.

I reckon 1m+ shipped ahead, but sales of around 500k ahead.


Can't see that happening. Those numbers are a pipe dream at best. XBO will not outsell the Wii U by 2.6 million (if we go by current VGC #'s) or 2.3million (If the Wii U is overtracked by 300k) from now until the end of December. 

The Wii U last year sold nearly 2 million from September to end of Decemeber 2013 last year. With  better bundles, baseline and Smash in November, they should be able to move 3.5 million consoles (sold) in that time frame whereas I cannot see XBO exceeding 4.5 million (which is still respectable sales). 

The Wii U should be able to maintain it's lead at least until Sping of 2015.

See you call it a pipe dream but out estimates are not that different from one another.

This Q MS will ship around 1.6m+ whilst WiiU around 600k (both could do more) so the shipment gap will be null going into October.

Over the holidays I see MS being a little up yoy thanks to more aggressive moves in the US, October and other countries, so like you, 4.5m. But I only see around 3m for WiiU. Either way it gives XB1 a 1.5m shipped lead which means an inevitable sales lead.

I can't see the Wii U selling less than 3.5 million this holiday. As I stated earlier, they have a significantly stronger holiday lineup (Smash & MK8 along with better bundles), more momentum that the previous holiday and we have yet to see the Ammibo effect.

As for shipments  the Wii U only shipping 600k  doesn't seem realistic this quarter, considering  it is already nearing 500k in sales since June 30th and ahead of the XBO momentarily. I don't forsee sales of the XBO reaching more than 400k for this month and Wii U less than 250k - 300k, which would put the XBO ahead by 100k or so for the quarter. 

I guess if M$ over stuff retailers and their stores they could ship 1.6 mill but I can't see the Nintendo shipping under 1 million globally either.

Nintendo shipped 500k last Q with Mario Kart. They were also doing better in Japan, Europe and the US (140k in June last Q down to 80k July).



 

eva01beserk on 04 September 2014
Seece said:
Nirvana_Nut85 said:
Seece said:

I reckon 1m+ shipped ahead, but sales of around 500k ahead.


Can't see that happening. Those numbers are a pipe dream at best. XBO will not outsell the Wii U by 2.6 million (if we go by current VGC #'s) or 2.3million (If the Wii U is overtracked by 300k) from now until the end of December. 

The Wii U last year sold nearly 2 million from September to end of Decemeber 2013 last year. With  better bundles, baseline and Smash in November, they should be able to move 3.5 million consoles (sold) in that time frame whereas I cannot see XBO exceeding 4.5 million (which is still respectable sales). 

The Wii U should be able to maintain it's lead at least until Sping of 2015.

See you call it a pipe dream but out estimates are not that different from one another.

This Q MS will ship around 1.6m+ whilst WiiU around 600k (both could do more) so the shipment gap will be null going into October.

Over the holidays I see MS being a little up yoy thanks to more aggressive moves in the US, October and other countries, so like you, 4.5m. But I only see around 3m for WiiU. Either way it gives XB1 a 1.5m shipped lead which means an inevitable sales lead.

So in your special little world, nintendo will ship in its holiday Q with 5 new games and a back log of games and a bunch of new bundles and a increased baseline, the same as the summer Q, wich is the worst selling Q of all against the biggest Q. Do you realy see that as a posibility? Considering last year they sold 1.6m with no bundles, just one new game and the hype for ps4/x1 release against it, you still think they will sell less then last year?



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ice on 04 September 2014
Pillow said:
a) 3rd party games doesn't matter for Xbox1 sales, because everyone is going to get the superior PS4 version that comes on cheaper hardware. It is a known fact and we've seen it in sales already.

b) Destiny won't be as big as you think it is on the Xbox1, all the hype is going on for the PS4 version atm.

c) Halo vs Smash bros / Remaster vs new game / Little hyped vs HUGE hyped game.

End of story: the gap won't be closed, at least this year, Smash has too much hype going on and I see little to no one talking about Xbox1 upcoming games, let it be forums or in real life.

Halo 5 might shift a lot of consoles if MS can create hype for the game and sustain it over a long period of time...

So this is mainly based on hype you see? I guess you see what you want, there's plenty of hype and talk around MCC.

Also just because a game sells better on PS4 doesn't mean it's not going to help the Xbone.



Wyrdness on 04 September 2014
Teeqoz said:
Wyrdness said:
I assume you'll either disappear or be banned when this is bumped at the end of the year, those tier two countries had less priority for MS then Japan a country where the X1 launch had more cones in the barrier then people in the ques. That doesn't seem encouraging because if these countries are like Japan you may be disappointed with the results come end of the year.


Why would he be banned?


Because he has a habit of getting himself banned over such topics.



vkaraujo on 04 September 2014

I believe sep will help Xone a lot, but by the end of the year Wii U will still lead.