I dont mind you all arguing over all this ^ However when quoting each other can you all snip out the long paragraphs in the previous quote? Its almost as bad as quote trees with that long of texts

yes.
PS4 selling 10m was announced on August 12th
People starting to complain was after that, not before
ioi's most recent post on VGC: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6602922
A few days later, PS4 was adjusted up to ~9.9m.

Nintendo doesn't announce sold to customer numbers. They report quarterly shipments. The gave us the most recent shipments 1 month ago. The next quarterly report will be released in 2 months. There's no need to wait.

Thats the thing, nobody knew the ps4 was off untill new info was given, and it even showed how much was off. Do you have info that prooves wii u overtracke aside from speculations, to even sugest by how much? No. there is a need to wait cuz you dont know by how much to reduce anywhere. If ioi sent you that same page but for wii u, where would you atribute the overtracked and by how much? And what information do you have to suport that claim? If nobody has anything, then we wait for nintendos oficial report and untill then just have an idea and be prepared for the real adjustment. Or you rather make the changes now at random to please some while others complain, then after the oficial report have to change it back while others still complain? 

Sony combines PS3+PS4 shipments in their quarterly reports. That makes it much much harder to estimate.
If Sony announced 12m shipped (for PS4 only) instead of 10 million sold back then. It would've been obvious that we're undertracking PS4, since 2.6m on shelves is far too high to be correct.

As others have already mentioned, there are several ways to estimate by how much and where it's overtracked in this very thread. No need to repeat myself or others.

Again, Nintendo doesn't announce sold through numbers. They've given shipment information last month. There's no need to wait, it's not going to get any better.

You're whole logic just doesn't make any sense.
You say that it's unlikely but not impossible that WiiU is overtracked, since we don't report more units sold than Nintendo shipped.
Now here's the thing. What IF next quarter we report more lifetime to date units sold than Nintendo shipped?
You already said that it's impossible. But how do we then know where it's overtracked and by how much?
According to you we can't, since it would just be wild guesses and due to that we should leave the undoubtedly wrong numbers unchanged on the front page.
That is what would make the site look not credible.

I think we both get each other but are unwiling to accept the others point of view as correct. So now we would just go around in circles.

From my other thread that got locked (will copy paste)

As title suggests, Q2 (April, May and June) show 249k in US and around 122k in Japan. Q3 is showing so far, 141k in US and 95k in Japan. (Current trends in both countries suggest WiiU will fall well below in the US, and pick up a little slack in Japan. Europe is more than likely on par with US, with sales dropping this Q.

Last Q Nintendo shipped 510k WiiU's, but this Q with VGC sales, we're expect 1.1m~ shipped. Why? This certainly goes against Nintendos own prediction of 3.6m for the fiscal year as well.

seece it s not obvious for you,that nintendo deliberately set a low forecast ,to exceed it?

When all they've ever done (for the last 7 years) is way over forecast? I believe they can hit around that 3.6m, but this is just people assuming because they don't seem to want to think Nintendo can only ship around 3.6m WiiU's.

I'm always surprised investors don't hammer them more for their ridiculous forecasts.  Like when they changed their 3DS forecast from 18m to 13.5m.  It was already Jan 29th when that report went out.  They certainly knew they weren't going to ship 1.85m units by the end of March.  When the quarter is a third over and you are still forecasting a number that is more than three times higher than actual shipments (590k for Q4), they are basically lying to investors.

Or when they were still forecasting 9m for the Wii U on October 30th.  Plus the fact that they haven't hit a single initial hardware forecast for years.

With all that said, they do stand a good chance of hitting 3.6m this fiscal year.

You got it wrong, Nintendo shipped 6.68M as of end of March. Wii U is undertracked by atleast 400K and there is proof and was already pointed out, cant currently find the thread.