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bubblegamer said:

GamechaserBE said:

 We can say the same about you bubblegamer, I not always agree with Quinton but he has a good point...

 

Can't say i'm surprised by your comment. But you'd be wrong if you were to say that about me. As i don't spend all my time cracking down on everything Nintendo makes. There is a difference between prefering something else and hating on something.

You made a Xbox one thread about something you don't really care and were you aswell stated the god of gaming is a Sony guy....then in the same thread you admit you will not get a Xbox one and only go for a PS4...  Personally I thought you were kind of behaving like a fanboy and now I see you attacking somebody for a opinion that is not fanboyish but has the potential to come true;.

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GamechaserBE said:
bubblegamer said:

GamechaserBE said:

 We can say the same about you bubblegamer, I not always agree with Quinton but he has a good point...

 

Can't say i'm surprised by your comment. But you'd be wrong if you were to say that about me. As i don't spend all my time cracking down on everything Nintendo makes. There is a difference between prefering something else and hating on something.

You made a Xbox one thread about something you don't really care and were you aswell stated the god of gaming is a Sony guy....then in the same thread you admit you will not get a Xbox one and only go for a PS4...  Personally I thought you were kind of behaving like a fanboy and now I see you attacking somebody for a opinion that is not fanboyish but has the potential to come true;.

What are you basing this BS on? I said Ken Kutaragi is the FATHER of gaming as we know it, you know about that guy, right? How does that make me a fanboy? You're basing all of this on a comment i made in a topic? Talk about selective perception.



amak11 said:
KingKazuma34 said:
Theres a lot of Nintendo fans in here that have always trashed the PS4, good lord there's a ton. PS4 is going to do amazing now, sorry but Wii U (while it's still good and I still plan to get one) had its run. Persona 5 is the most anticipated game that Japanese gamers have voted for in Famitsu, look it up. The list of games in Japan is crazy.

Final Fantasy 15 (top 5 most anticipated in Famitsu voted by gamers, and its final fantasy, it always moves consoles)
Kingdom Hearts 3 (top 5 most anticipated in Famistu by gamers)
Persona 5
Yakuza 0
God Eater 2 (500k in one week on Vita)
Dragon Quest Heroes
Bloodborne
Metal Gear Solid TPP
Gundam
Senran Kagura
Deep Down
Final Fantasy Type 0

If you truly believe that this will not move consoles at all then your delusional and are in denial.

I call BS on this comment. In Japan the PS4 is stragling behind the Wii U, both of which are stragling behind the Vita. All three of those well behind the 3DS. Considering Nintendo consoles over there has it's own Dragon Quest series, it also has the main Monster Hunter series (which is exclusive to Nintendo platforms and not referring to the spin-offs like Frontier). Nintendo is releasing a portable, and significantly faster and better 3DS model over there. I'm going to hazard a guess and assume that home console sales will dip a lot in a country that is mostly portable gamers. Plus it's releasing with Xenoblade Chronicles

The only thing that helps Sony platforms it seems are traditional JRPGs and hack 'n' slash games. But I'm afraid you are dilusional here. Sony won't be selling millions more in Japan, no way in hell that is possible. Like Soundwave said,"It'll boost the baseline sure, but nothing is saving the console business over there."

Ps4 is struggling behind the Wii U because there are no games out that cater to the Japanese audience. What is one game that Japanese gamers like that is on the Ps4 right now? Nothing. Meanwhile, Wii U has 3D Mario, Mario Kart 8, and other games already. Since when did I compare the Ps4 to the 3ds? and When did I ever say that Sony will sell millions? I said "Ps4 is going to do amazing." It is going to outperform the Wii U hands down, and if you want to make a bet I will be happy to, because the statement you made "no way in hell that is possible" on Sony selling systems in Japan is crazy haha. Xenoblade Chronicles, ill give you that, but you do know the game sold sub 200k in Japan right? On a system that "Won" the console generation with over 12 million sold in Japan alone. I truley believe that the only reason console sales have dipped badly is because there are zero games out right now that people want in Japan, everything is on handhelds or mobile these days, BUT when games do come out, lets say for Ps3, they sell 500k plus in one week! But hey if you want to keep thinking that none of these huge, platform selling franchises will move any Ps4's, then thats on you. Ill come back to this comment by the end of 2015.



 

bubblegamer said:
GamechaserBE said:
bubblegamer said:

GamechaserBE said:

 We can say the same about you bubblegamer, I not always agree with Quinton but he has a good point...

 

Can't say i'm surprised by your comment. But you'd be wrong if you were to say that about me. As i don't spend all my time cracking down on everything Nintendo makes. There is a difference between prefering something else and hating on something.

You made a Xbox one thread about something you don't really care and were you aswell stated the god of gaming is a Sony guy....then in the same thread you admit you will not get a Xbox one and only go for a PS4...  Personally I thought you were kind of behaving like a fanboy and now I see you attacking somebody for a opinion that is not fanboyish but has the potential to come true;.

What are you basing this BS on? I said Ken Kutaragi is the FATHER of gaming as we know it, you know about that guy, right? How does that make me a fanboy? You're basing all of this on a comment i made in a topic? Talk about selective perception.

You said more in thatXboxone thread :).  It also made it pretty clear that your console preference is not with Xbox one and that is fine for me, but when that console preference goes that far that you will attack people like Quinton because he have an opinion that is btw shared by others it crosses a line for me. If he said fuck sony those games suck it would be fine by me that people attack him but he made a fair statement.



Meh... will sell good lifetime, but less than Wii U.



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Yeah pretty much. It was going to happen anyway. It doesn't mean it will dominate like it is in other regions, but it won't be selling less than the PS3 come this time next year.



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KingKazuma34 said:

Ps4 is struggling behind the Wii U because there are no games out that cater to the Japanese audience. What is one game that Japanese gamers like that is on the Ps4 right now? Nothing. Meanwhile, Wii U has 3D Mario, Mario Kart 8, and other games already. Since when did I compare the Ps4 to the 3ds? and When did I ever say that Sony will sell millions? I said "Ps4 is going to do amazing." It is going to outperform the Wii U hands down, and if you want to make a bet I will be happy to, because the statement you made "no way in hell that is possible" on Sony selling systems in Japan is crazy haha. Xenoblade Chronicles, ill give you that, but you do know the game sold sub 200k in Japan right? On a system that "Won" the console generation with over 12 million sold in Japan alone. I truley believe that the only reason console sales have dipped badly is because there are zero games out right now that people want in Japan, everything is on handhelds or mobile these days, BUT when games do come out, lets say for Ps3, they sell 500k plus in one week! But hey if you want to keep thinking that none of these huge, platform selling franchises will move any Ps4's, then thats on you. Ill come back to this comment by the end of 2015.


Since you're not reading Soundwave's comments I will just copy past a line from his latest one. He's the only one making sense here. 

"To be honest most Japanese don't care. Gaming at home just isn't a big thing in Japan anymore,"

The most correct thing in this thread, plus most of the games you listed barely have Japanese appeal. It takes a lot to impress a Japanese audience and bring epic grandious adventures isn't one way to impress them anymore. 



drake_tolu said:
Meh... will sell good lifetime, but less than Wii U.


I disagree mister, when you look at 2015 planning for example, it's obvious that PS4 will sell much more this year, 2016 should be even better, more the PS4 will sell, more the publishers will make big games for it. and waiting for that, sony will continue to ask PS4 versions of PS3 games, which will help a lot, like the games Vita/PSP, PS4 versions will begin to sell more and then anihilate the PS3 versions the third year.

 

Dragon Quest Heroes is already a very very good start, then, the actul Dragon Quest XI ( even multiplatform with PS3) will be enough alone.



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Fusioncode said:
GribbleGrunger said:
Ka-pi96 said:

I'm pretty sure December is one of the busiest times for sales in Japan as well. New years presents maybe?

I had a long conversation on another forum about Japanese culture in which I was told in no uncertain terms that I was completely wrong and that the Japanese don't have any particular reason to buy more consoles/handhelds during what WE consider Christmas. Regardless of the fact they DO seem to buy more at the same time of year as we do ... The guy just couldn't see passed the fact I'd called it Christmas to the point of him not realising it doesn't matter what the hell causes the increase, it takes place! LOL

They don't celebrate Christmas but they still buy a lot of games in December. Not sure why. 

Well, Christmas is seen as holiday with your significan other. That may include buying thme the game they wanted. There are more than 2 million Christians in Japan, so even a 10-20k boost would be understandable considering the population.



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