I was thinking when someone would make this thread.

On home consoles, we have clear examples that updates dont work. Look at the Mega/Sega CD and 32X. Or if you want a completely new model, you can look at the multi-mega.

I think its premature to declare the new 3DS as a sucess aswell. We are yet to see.

The way Nintendo works is they make games that please all demographics. Consider the Wii U demographic is the same as PS4 and One I say tap in to the market of users not the people they dont need to convince... aka the hardware whiners,

Well, I'll be lying if I said no.  Nintendo could always be a better company.

No real party chat as of yet, although some games do feature it, inc a few 3rd party ones. There are still plenty of things to improve on, but on the whole ive been very pleased with my Wii U and 3DS online functions. I know you are a Playstation and Xbox fan, but have you seen anything that may tempt you to buying a Wii U in the future?

Generic shooters and gangster games? Lmfao. Not all shooters are generic idk why people like you hate on them so much. I consider myself a core gamer but I don't rush out to get a game once I see it's generic haha. Just because someone likes something else doesn't mean you downplay. Respect other people's opinions. 

The "Wii" brand in general is a liability nowadays when trying to appeal to any audience really, now that casuals are not coming back.

It dates Nintendo and makes people think of 2006, just like brands like Blackberry and MySpace are liabilities because they scream "hey remember when that was cool in 2006, lol".

The sooner Nintendo ditches it for a fresh start, the better really. The rest of this generation for them is just about treading water and hoping that amiibo can salvage this gen with some late cycle profits (plastic toys have very nice profit margins).

Are you kidding? Please tell me what 3rd party delivered anything remotely innovative over the past generation? We have the same exact sports games, same exact shooters, same exact Assassins creeds made every year and you're going to tell me Nintendo is the lazy one... I understand Nintendo has cash cows too, but at least they innovate their games to match other genres instead of the same old crap 3rd party feeds you.

I think you are making a confusion in my statement.. Nintendo has not appealed to the core gamer with their last two consoles. Their market approach shifting to focus on the core gamers is indeed my point here. With that being applied their console must now shift into bringing in more core gamers from other markets. Their 1st party studios imo destroy any 3rd party studios in terms of quality.. Nintendo games are crafted to perfection, look at pikmin 3 and mk8.. So yes I agree Wii U has core gamers, but they don't have enough to establish a firm title of a core gamer console.

Nintendo needs to keep what it's doing now.  Getting more exclusives like Bayonetta 2.  So you can cry why the game is a Wii U exclusive and why you won't buy the console for one game. lol

Wow if they release this updated console with exclusives like the N3DS, then the wii u I bought 2 months back will be my first and last nintendo console. This is no way to treat consumers.