Yeah ME is yet another good example of a game that was excellent but SP only. And I play lots of MP games as well but I also play the SP games that I find and are good as well. I guess while I enjoy MP games being immersed in a good SP campaign is a great thing as a gamer.

But back in the NEW days we didn't bash a game if it was SP only. We would call and ask have you beat this yet or have you made it to this part etc. And we still enjoyed playing games together like the ones you mentioned. It jus seems now as if the SP portion of most games is getting less and less attention and the MP is the sole focus and that just doesn't sit well with me I guess.

This is an excellent way of looking at it as well. While I have LOTS of fun playing MP games it is nothing like that feeling of beating a good SP game. Like back in teh days of Ninja Gaiden(the old ones lol) or Shinobi those games were hard as heck but so worth it to complete and game that feeling of accomplishment.

Pretty much, even if a game really doesn't need it. AC Unity is a great example, where it's cinematic/story driven (to an extent) yet has a multiplayer component. Multiplayer rips me right out of that cinematic world that I'm supposed to experience yet it's being shoved down my throat as one of the key features of the game. No thanks, I won't bite.

Don't need multiplayer in all of my games, but gaming's progressing further that way whether we like it or not.

I don't like this narrow viewpoint where games need to have multiplayer in order to be an acceptable game. If a game is released without online, it gets doubt from gamers and certain reviewers. They will deem it as "boring" and a game with "little replay value" and will detract point from the overall game. If there's a game with a rushed and tacked on multiplayer, gamers and reviewers will cry foul because the online "had so much potential" or "seemed rushed" and will detract points from the overall game. They want to push multiplayer on every game out there nowadays, and not every game needs it.

Nope... I still play single player games. I also play games that have a single and a multiplayer but only play the single player portion of the game. Example for this gen: AC4. I actually enjoy most single player games more than I do multiplayer ones. I play a decent amount of both.

Well their was not enough games with multiplayer yet, people would have bashed for sure if they could not play the next contra/mortal combat/soccer game with two though.. only nobody would hear it because their were no forums..  I liked Sega in the old days and I remember a letter in a magazine how he felt sad that you can't play Sonic with 2 players while Nintendo had mario and you could. Lucky Sonic 2 changed that..

Yeah back then no one cared really though lol. WE had funny watching each other play or taking turns playing or even just playing the games. Don't get em wrong I love some good Mp games but I do not like the fact that now it is seeming like if a game DOES NOT have MP it is already looked at as if it is not worth it....as a gamer that is sad for me becauseit means devs will make a sp campaign but won't put the work into it that they used to and will focus more on the MP aspect.

I think in general most people like to have a social experience, i.e. play with others as opposed to just play by themselves. I mean even back in the NES days Mario was such a big hit because people could do couch co-op. Nowadays you have even better options with MP. That's why so many games have MP to keep people coming back to play with friends.

That being said I believe SP games absolutely have their place. There are great SP games and successful ones at that. I love my good dose of RPG games which are mostly SP.

I like playing with others, makes games more fun to me. Playing alone is fun too, but like sharing moments.