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Teeqoz on 23 August 2014
prayformojo said:
DerNebel said:

95% of people will not even care as long as the price is right, which is the one thing I fully expect from the digital future: lower prices for new games.


When we're talking 95%, we're talking mainstream gamers and the average consumer. I don't identify with those people in anyway and consider myself a part of the vast minority. I totally agree that it's going to happen but I'm personally never going to do it. It's just not something I can enjoy. 

Paying money for entertainment that is both controlled by a corporation and dependant on the internet (streaming) is not going to happen for this guy.


So I take it you don't watch television?

How can you play games, they're depending on electricity that's controlled by corporations, right?



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Mr Puggsly on 23 August 2014

Personally, I'd like to see a competitor thrive using cloud gaming.

It could simply be an option for those not interested in buying expensive hardware.



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FiveOVER on 23 August 2014
outlawauron said:
Locknuts said:
outlawauron said:

 

I imagine they'd intergrate together. Where you can do the current streaming for an amount of time, or play off the cloud as it downloads and installs to allow for seamless purchase and play.

They mentioned getting rid of consoles altogether, aka no hardware to play those games. Only streaming is left, which is different from the digital format that we know now.



CDiablo on 23 August 2014
tuscaniman99 said:
To everyone saying they won't support digital media for games, you will support it or you won't game anymore. Simple as that. Do you not play games on your phone? Do you listen to mp3s? Do you have Netflix? The sooner gaming goes the way of digital the sooner is becomes more affordable.

Im not sure why you think game prices would lower if this transformation happens. Have you seen prices on PSN/XBL? Most are the same/much higher than retail or used. When in a closed enviroment like consoles there is no reason to have competitive pricing.



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curl-6 on 23 August 2014
tuscaniman99 said:
To everyone saying they won't support digital media for games, you will support it or you won't game anymore. Simple as that. Do you not play games on your phone? Do you listen to mp3s? Do you have Netflix? The sooner gaming goes the way of digital the sooner is becomes more affordable.

Yes, I will still game. I'm sure there are plenty of good games from the 4th and 5th gen I haven't gotten around to yet. SNES/Megadrive/Saturn/PS1/N64 alone could sustain me for years, not to mention then moving on to 6th/7th/8th gen games I missed. That's thousands of games available without the BS of digital non-ownership.

And no, I do not play games on my phone, listen to MP3s, or have Netflix.



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Locknuts on 23 August 2014
outlawauron said:
Locknuts said:
outlawauron said:
Wow, for anyone who doubts that this is the future, please look towards Steam. It's not going to happen in 5 years, but I'll be shocked if our console ecosystem exists like it does now in 13-14 years.

Steam is great. Aslong as I can download games onto a hard disk I'm happy going digital. Streaming is just not going to cut it though. I haven't tried PS Now as it's not available in Australia but I can't imagine it ever becoming lag free.

I imagine they'd intergrate together. Where you can do the current streaming for an amount of time, or play off the cloud as it downloads and installs to allow for seamless purchase and play.

That doesn't seem to be what Sony is suggesting. I think Steam is the future. Open platform with digital distribution.



glimmer_of_hope on 23 August 2014

I think it would be cool to plug a controller into your phone and then connect your Sony, Windows or....er...Nintendo phone to your tv.



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Gammalad on 23 August 2014

Will not support this, I always prefer physical gaming to digital. I won't stop gaming but it will be a bitter pill to swallow and I'll resist it as long as I can.



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POE on 23 August 2014
Fusioncode said:
POE said:
Fusioncode said:
POE said:
Well, it makes sense for them to do this since they are one of the principal culprits of making console gaming disappear.

They're the only ones who've made a successful console this gen. Hard to hear I know. 


At the cost of anti consumer stuff.

You mean like them region locking their systems? Oh wait that's Nintendo...

No, i mean like paying for online, or remaking a one year old game.



SvennoJ on 23 August 2014
tuscaniman99 said:
toot1231 said:

I don't support digital games at all.

If physical games dissapear then I will not support any "system" or company that does it.

I know for a fact im not alone on this.

How do you watch movies or listen to music? Video games will have to be like other forms of media or die out.

I listen to music on CDs, still buy them now and then, haven't bought a single digital song yet.
I buy movies on blu-ray, but I do occasionally rent one digitally since I have no physical rental option anymore. (And usually end up hating the compression artifacts and lack of options)
Cloud gaming: no ownership, extra lag, compression artifacts, compressed sound, not for me.

I only buy digital downloads if there is no other option, which is indie games. I have bought some AAA games on Steam in sales, yet hardly play on PC anymore. My interest in PC gaming became a lot less when PC games disappeared from stores.

By the time consoles disappear I'll be in my late 50's anyway and probably be happy with retro gaming. I do want to experience VR, but I don't see how that can work from the cloud. Any lag will ruin the immersion and cause motion sickness. Any head movements need to be updated in real time, preferably at 75hz or more. You show me a cloud server that can do the full round trip, poll movement, transfer data, render frame, compress frame, transfer data, decompress frame, display data in 13ms consistently without any hickups or compression artifacts in a 4K image x 2.