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Square Enix is a publisher that i really dont care about much, i dont follow up on its news much and i really dont care much for their games, yet they keep amazing me, they keep doing stuff to fuck them self over and over and boy do they do a good job at it. i have 4 examples, all of which are pretty stupid decisions made by SE, and of course, one being the reason you are all thinking about.

1- they keep announcing final fantasy games before the previously announced are released. i think at one point, FF13-3, FF Versus, and FF14 were ALL announced and ALL still in development. even yearly franchises dont degenerate to this kind of stupidity. why on earth would you announce more than one game for the same franchise, you are literally making them compete with each other. 

2- They never fucking learn when it comes to announcing games. FF versus was anounced a billion years ago, fast forward a few more light years and the game still isnt close to being out. then at the start of the new gen FFV is now FF15, ok, fair enough. but the morons go and announce it WAY to early AGAIN. they announce it at E3 2013 then SKIP E3 2014! are they fucking idiots? why not skip 2013 then announce it at 2014 instead! not only that, they announce Kindgom Hears 3, great right? WRONG. from what i understand is that the same team of FF15 will be the one doing KH3. so they basically announced a game (KH3) before it even went into full fucking production, that will be made by a team that is still far away from their game at had. its moronic.

3- FF13. out of all the FF games, this one is the most one i seen people dislike, its obviously not popular. so how can Square Enix screw its self over here? oh make another 2 sequals for the most hated game in the franchise and drag your franchise down into the grown. the FF13 saga pretty much killed the mega franchise that was Final Fantasy. 

4- After the humiliating crumble of Square's biggest franchise, Final Fantasy, they go around (well technically Crystal Dynamics) and do something right, Tomb Raider Reboot in 2013. the game is a hit with 7+ million units sold. and suddenly Square has a big franchise again on its hands. but then their own damn stupidity decides its time for their anus to recieve another massive fucking. they decide to go timed exclusive with xbox.

now the state of the industry is clear, PS4 is crushing the XB1, PC has proven its self time and time again to be a vaible platform for games (watch Dogs sold 400k week one on PC). and by holiday 2015 both PS3 and 360 will be pretty much irrelevant. and while the argument is that Microsoft handed Square a big pile of cash, that really doesnt matter. it will be a one time thing, and Square, effectivly are skipping putting their game on the fastest selling Playstation console of all time, a platform which has hold the majority of Tomb Raider sales. a platform which is crushing the compitition, in EU its demolishing them. the result? Rise of the tomb raider will sell considerably less than TR Reboot. the next TR after after Rise of the Tomb Raider will also sell less than it would have if they stayed multiplatform. 

a publisher cant come by a franchise that sells 7m+ so easily, and it doesnt happen often. and its common sense that when you do, dont fuck yourself over and put it timed exclusive on any platform. specially a platform that is being outsold by the compitition everywhere, and barely has any presence in Europe. and i know, its timed exclusive, meaning that at some point it will come to PS and PC, but it will hurt sales drastically, so it doesnt really matter. 



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SE will either close its doors or be bought before 2017-2018. They have no future and have been diving more than almost every other publisher.
That's what happens when you make decisions like spending the budget of all Uncharted games put together just marketing one game that doesn't even sell as much as Uncharted, try to take control of talented studios work and ruin their games (Thief), try to make AAAs out of C-tier (Murdered), prolong FF13 and turn FF15 into something worse than TLG, etc etc.



and as i said, i really dont follow up on square much, so if i got something wrong with some of the stuff they did, my bad.



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Raziel123 said:
SE will either close its doors or be bought before 2017-2018. They have no future and have been diving more than almost every other publisher.
That's what happens when you make decisions like spending the budget of all Uncharted games put together just marketing one game that doesn't even sell as much as Uncharted, try to take control of talented studios work and ruin their games (Thief), try to make AAAs out of C-tier (Murdered), prolong FF13 and turn FF15 into something worse than TLG, etc etc.


Very much yes



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Yeah, they turned to shit, 95% of the things their japanese branch does is mediocre or bad, exception being the odd handheld game once in a while (TWEWY, Bravely Default, Dragon Quest IX) and their management is totally retarded.

It's a pity really, before the merger Squaresoft was absolutely glorious, one of the best developers of the SNES and PS1 era, now I just want them to finish FFXV and Kingdom Hearts 3 and then they can go bankrupt for all I care, that or they make some serious, serious changes.



Yeah I’m finished with square after the previous generation. it’d be surprised if they survive until the end of this generation as well.



Raziel123 said:
SE will either close its doors or be bought before 2017-2018. They have no future and have been diving more than almost every other publisher.
That's what happens when you make decisions like spending the budget of all Uncharted games put together just marketing one game that doesn't even sell as much as Uncharted, try to take control of talented studios work and ruin their games (Thief), try to make AAAs out of C-tier (Murdered), prolong FF13 and turn FF15 into something worse than TLG, etc etc.

I'd say it's pretty unlikely they close/get bought by then. They have several titles like FF15 and KH3 which are essentially guaranteed to make a profit, even with a crazy budget.

Heck, FF14 alone could probably keep them afloat for the next few years :p FF11 was the most profitable FF title they ever made, with a playerbase peak of 550k. FF14 currently has 2m+.



BTW. I just googled Square Enix, trying to find out how many people work at that company (3200 and they can't get Final Fantasy game out 8 years after announcing it) and came across this article, what is that bullcrap?

http://www.christianpost.com/news/final-fantasy-15-release-date-square-enix-announced-a-march-2015-launching-date-124869/



I dont think you cursed enough ;)

1. I dont think that is a problem. I would consider Final Fantasy similar to games like Mario, Halo, Assassin's Creed, Call of Duty, Battlefield, or any other franchise that can have multiple games in the work. They arent competing with each other unless theyre released in the same time frame as the other installments.

2. They do announce games too early though. I dont think that is going to hurt sales though. I think it gains popularity in a way. The Last Guardian can be used as an example. Almost everybody on the internet will know about this game by the time it releases. However i think it hurts them when it comes to budget because if a game is in development that long i would say it is likely having problems and costing them more money because they keep having to restart or fix something.  What will hurt the game is if it is a bad game which remains to be seen

3. Yeah i have to agree with you completely on this one. Not sure why they decided to make FF13 sequels yet they dont touch their most popular FF game in FF7. Well they did make crisis core but they could just remake FF7 for easy money

4. Disagree. Tomb Raider 2013 did sell 7m but Square Enix said publicly they were not happy with the sales originally meaning that they were not happy with how much it sold initially. I think if im remembering correctly they wanted Tomb Raider to sell 7m in the first 3-6months? You would have to go back and look that up. This deal makes it less of a risk for Square Enix.

It will sell less of course, does not mean its making less money though.  They arent advertising(MSFT is), MSFT is funding it, etc