you also said ps4 would sell 10.5m, that also mean prediction sales at the end of the year? I don't know if you are aware but sony announced more than 10 million sold through customers recently unless you believe it's shipped.

i explained that earlier too.  They have sold 10m total, not in 2014 though.  They have sold 5.6m in 2014 so far.  They sold 4.4m in 2013.  Even then my number is a little low, thinking about it again i could see more like 12.5m maybe 13m total in 2014 (18m total)

Because he thinks the Wii U will do three million more this year, and only three million through all of next year.

now i get it, thanks for the explanation.

No problem :)

They have halo remaster this holiday and halo 5 in next holiday. Aparantly for xbox fans halo is enouf to look down upon the competition. I do think were are looking at another dreamcast here in the x1.

Is this shit in the dictionary yet

Dreamcast noun 1998 home console system by SEGA.

Dreamcast adj 1 admirable attempt by SEGA to regain fan support 2 dramatic attempt by frankly silly people to draw comparisons to something tenuously related by use of risible and easily rebuffed metrics 3 ironic my penis

That was funny :p

But I dont mean it will sell on the low numbers of the dreamcast of under 10m. Thats completly imposible. What I meant is that I think that this console will be it for MS. No more xbox after this.

Lol no. Xbox One will do at least 40 million and makes tens of billions of profits just like the 360. Microsoft isnt going to give up on the living room.

I dunno man, I'm not one to care about numbers, but only the most optimistic of fools could deny that in the long term, we are witnessing a race to the bottom.

At this point, it is better to speculate as to who is best suited to continue their niche, and who will maintain the untenable industry where b-movie games need to sell too many copies to be self-sustaining.

There is a middle ground, of course, but there's a whole different argument as to who is going to be in charge of THAT.