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fighter said:

Although it is worse than the DRM scandal of last year it won't be considered as much of a problem.


We all know why.

 

PS. video is at 41 thumbs down at the moment of writing this

Don't know what you are getting at... and PSnow is in no way a scandal. Its a service that will allow people play playstation games with a $99 box or even on devices not affiliated with sony in any as an app. Don't get it twisted, there are a lot of people that will be just fine having a $99 box that gives them access to every game they could want.

I am not in support of this though... and I honestly wouldn't care as long as they never take away the option of buying a physical box and buying games even if only digitally.



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Lafiel said:
animegaming said:


but that alternate choice is just as bad as Sim City or Diablo 3 seriously i have no idea why anyone thinks this is a good idea when streaming games is just as bad as what Micrsoft tried to pull last year and what Bizarrd and EA pulled with those 2 games that rightfully were criticize big time for those stunts and Sony should be as well just in case if they are trying to make cloud gaming the future.

they were criticised, because there was only 1 way to play their games

game streaming in an option that is advantageous to the traditional distribution way in certain situations (for example: you only have a bad pc and want to play a high tech single player game -> only need to pay for streaming and not need to buy a new pc)

people to whom it is advantageous should use it, people that gain nothing from it shouldn't bitch about it's existence


even then that isn't a very good opition i tried streaming borderlands 2 on my mom's laptop using the streaming service and the input lag made it one of the most unplayable things i have ever exprienced and made me want to go back to the game on my PC where i can play it at 60 FPS. and besides aside from Onlive there is no legit opition to stream a game to a PC cause the streaming service on steam it basically functions like remote play does and on how my PC was running Borderlands 2 while it was being streamed to my mom's laptop and so right now there that kinda makes your point invallid since the only 2 opitions for cloud streaming is Onlive and Playstation Now which they don't have high end games that only just came out.



kitler53 said:
animegaming said:
kitler53 said:
fighter said:
Although it is worse than the DRM scandal of last year it won't be considered as much of a problem.


We all know why.


yep, because psnow is a new alternative choice to the traditional buisness model instead of taking the exisiting business model and chaning it for the worse.


but that alternate choice is just as bad as Sim City or Diablo 3 seriously i have no idea why anyone thinks this is a good idea when streaming games is just as bad as what Micrsoft tried to pull last year and what Bizarrd and EA pulled with those 2 games that rightfully were criticize big time for those stunts and Sony should be as well just in case if they are trying to make cloud gaming the future.


if you don't like the choice don't choose it.  i love netflix.  a netflix like gaming streaming service is something i would like if the content for the price hits the right balance.  if you don't like netflix buy dvds.  if you don't like psnow buy the disc.  

but the reason sony isn't getting critisized is still very simple,.. they are building a new alternative service.   it very well may fail but if it succeeds it is because consumers choose it over the other options not because they were forced to.   people hate feeling like they are forced to do something.  that, and only that, is why sony isn't being scandalized like xbox was last year.  choice. 


but streaming a movie and a game are 2 very different things like when you're streaming a movie  you don't need to worry about input lag which already there makes games like platformers, fighting games, or action games just to name a few genres that will be afffect by streaming in a bad way while only possibly only leaving turn base games feel a bit playable unplayable cause of that there is just way to many cons for me to see streaming as a viable opition for gaming and also you have to leave in the hands of multiple companies to have there sh!t together ranging from a developer/publisher, your internet provider, and the host of the service in order for you to enjoy a game that just kills  the conveince of the physcal and to some extent downloadable games and not having to worry about like a middle man screwing it all up.



Zekkyou said:
Pretty terrible video. He does have some valid points, but when your argument involves completely neglecting to mention the positives in a balanced manner, as well as cherry picking information relating to other issues, it's perhaps not one you should be making.

I see nothing wrong with the service. It offers a new way of providing content to people that removes the need for native gaming hardware. If people don't want it or if Sony delivers it in a manner that makes people unhappy, then they still have the option of going out and buying a console/gaming PC and buying their content on disk or through downloads.


i thought the video was mainly fearing a worse case scenario on that will happen if streaming games becomes a viable opition.



The overly negative tone against Sony makes this video hard to watch. Half of the video talks about how bad digital is in general.
Also it's a bit weird how he counts all the ways that this service is worse than offline gaming(which it is) and then goes on to be afraid that it will be a success.

"The only pro of streaming is convenience" - Yes. That is the main force that drives all of our technology. That's why we started using bones instead of our hands to clubber tigers to death. So I wouldn't disregard "convenience" as something minor.

Also there is latency on games that you stream through the internet? Which university professor did he ask to find that out?

Overall I'm gonna chalk this up to random hysteria.



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animegaming said:
Zekkyou said:
Pretty terrible video. He does have some valid points, but when your argument involves completely neglecting to mention the positives in a balanced manner, as well as cherry picking information relating to other issues, it's perhaps not one you should be making.

I see nothing wrong with the service. It offers a new way of providing content to people that removes the need for native gaming hardware. If people don't want it or if Sony delivers it in a manner that makes people unhappy, then they still have the option of going out and buying a console/gaming PC and buying their content on disk or through downloads.


i thought the video was mainly fearing a worse case scenario on that will happen if streaming games becomes a viable opition.

Streaming will become a viable option. Maybe with PSNow, maybe with something in the future, but one day it will happen. The only thing that's important is that it remains just that; an option.

The reason MS weren't able to get away with their DRM policies was because people had alternatives, thus giving them the power to say no to MS. As long as those other options also remain viable, neither Sony nor any other company has the power to force us in one direction or another.

Streaming could end up being terrible, but it could likewise end up being great. If Sony start trying to force people over to PSNow or make it a necessity rather than an optional service, then we can all collectively tell them where to shove it :p In the meantime i'd rather give them feedback, and hope that PSNow can realize the potential game streaming has.



If PS now goes subscription based, I'll bite. They could sell gangbusters of the Vita TV ( or whatever it's called now) with a 3 or 6 month subscription to ps now. hook them in, then hit them with the monthly bill. As long as it has it's current pricing setup. I can't see it doing well.

I think maybe around $25-30 a month price is good.



If you subscribe to it monthly like Netflix, and don't pay for every game, then that's cool it saves so much money on playing crappy games (since most games released are crappy in my opinion) so It would give me the reason to just buy the good games.



Onlive actually has a pretty decent $9.99 a month with access to play 150-200 games, or whatever number it is and can play any one you want and as much as you want. Would be a lot better if it had more better games but that's a pretty good deal.

On a side note: I have Mediacom internet and they put data caps in place last year I think and I have a cap of 250 GB(gigabytes).



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