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VanceIX said:
Fusioncode said:
VanceIX said:

Forza isn't half the IP that Halo is.

Also, I didn't say that the One would outsell the PS4, just that it would move enough units and be competetive enough that the PS4 wouldn't be able to cross 17 million.

Saying that exclusives don't sell systems is misleading. Big IPs like Halo, Uncharted, Last of Us, Pokemon, Zelda, and Gears of War will ALWAYS cause massive spikes in sales.

I don't know, with this gen it seems like exclusive advertising fo the next big multiplat is the best way to go. I wonder how many consumers though Destiny was a PS4 exclusive. 

That's because we haven't many major IPs from either console makers. The biggest IP was probably Last of Us Remastered, which netted the PS4 tons of sales when it came out. I don't see why the MCC (which is arguably much bigger in terms of IP popularity and content) couldn't have similar effects for the Xbox One throughout the holiday season. 

I never said it wasn't a system seller. I'm saying that exclusive advertising for multiplats just seems to be doing more this gen.

Not to mention, Microsoft has been exclusively marketing the hell out of Madden, Assassin's Creed, and Call of Duty as well, so by that logic Microsoft should do relatively well this holiday season.

Madden did help XBO. A lot actually. I'm sure AC Unity will have a bigger effect on XBO sales than Sunset Overdrive. Of course Microsoft will do well this holiday season. I never said otherwise. 

Basically I was responding to your comment of Sony needing an "answer" for Microsoft's exclusives. I just don't think that's the case this gen. 



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PS3 sold 5 Million by Sep 07.
PS3 sold 4.1 Million in Oct~Dec 07.

PS4 sold 11.3+ Million by Sep 14. That's 126% more than the PS3's sales!

If we assumed PS4 could maintain 126% higher sales than PS3 then PS4 would sell over 9 million by end of year and pass 20 Million!

I don't really expect that, but I expect PS4 to sell ~50% over PS3, or about 6.2 million which will let it pass 17 million.



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I think the PS4 is already at 12M, it should easily sell 4M until January 1st, so 16M is the bare minimum. The best scenario would be around 20M, and I'm betting on around 18M by January 1st 2015.

Though one thing to keep in mind is supply issues, I don't know how much is Sony prepared to manufacture and ship.



Fusioncode said:
VanceIX said:
Possible, but I think unlikely. The Xbox One will be taking a significant amount of the market share with the MCC and Sunset Overdrive, and I'm not sure Sony has the answer to either.

Where was Sony's answer for Forza Horizon 2? Not a single exclusive release yet they still managed one of the largest September sales in history. It's becoming more and more clear that exclusives aren't selling systems like they used to. 

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Launch aligned PS4 is currently trending about on par with the Wii which sold 7 million back in Q4 2007. Not to mention that the GTA5 bundle is likely going to be as big or bigger than anything Wii had back then, at least in the short term. So I'd say 17 million is very likely.



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I think PS4's already at 12m (as of 04/10/14), the next few months to the end of the year are gonna be really good, 18 million by the end of this year is going to be easy IMO.
In Wazowski's Holiday sales prediction thread I had PS4 as selling 7.3 million from the beginning of this month, through to the end of this year, so I think well over 19 mil could be achievable by December 31st if PS4 has hit 12m by 04/10/14.



daredevil.shark said:
Devil_Survivor said:
Just to clarify, your asking if we think it will cross 15 million by the end of 2014 and more than 17 million by April 2015?


1. if we think it will cross 15 million by the end of 2014

2. more than 17 million by April 2015?

If 1 is true then 2 will be true. I am saying 1 has a small chance to be true. Lol.

1. Has a good chance of happening...I think the PS4 sales being at ~12M by the end of October 2014 (according to this site) would leave 3M left for the holiday season.  I think during the holiday season you will se RETAIL based sales of $50(maybe $75) bucks off the $400 price tag.  I think that will get the 3M sales that would be needed to get to 15M by December 31, 2014.  From there I think Sony could move 2M more units by April 1, 2015 with The Order & Bloodborne 

 

BUT too be fair, you wrote your statment on August 5, 2014 so you didn't have the numbers I do in mid October



Fusioncode said:
VanceIX said:

That's because we haven't many major IPs from either console makers. The biggest IP was probably Last of Us Remastered, which netted the PS4 tons of sales when it came out. I don't see why the MCC (which is arguably much bigger in terms of IP popularity and content) couldn't have similar effects for the Xbox One throughout the holiday season. 

I never said it wasn't a system seller. I'm saying that exclusive advertising for multiplats just seems to be doing more this gen.

Not to mention, Microsoft has been exclusively marketing the hell out of Madden, Assassin's Creed, and Call of Duty as well, so by that logic Microsoft should do relatively well this holiday season.

Madden did help XBO. A lot actually. I'm sure AC Unity will have a bigger effect on XBO sales than Sunset Overdrive. Of course Microsoft will do well this holiday season. I never said otherwise. 

Basically I was responding to your comment of Sony needing an "answer" for Microsoft's exclusives. I just don't think that's the case this gen. 

Then I guess we'll just agree to disagree. I predict a huge sales bump for the One once MCC comes out, and a smaller one when Sunset Overdrive comes out. We'll see what happens.



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vivster said:
15 million, yes. 17 million? You cray cray.


The PS4 is undertracked on this site (anyone still surprised?) and it's most likely passed 12M by the end of Semptember (huehue dat 11.4M on front page) so you think they can't sell 4/5M for last 3 and most important months of the year? Sounds logical...



4k1x3r said:
vivster said:
15 million, yes. 17 million? You cray cray.


The PS4 is undertracked on this site (anyone still surprised?) and it's most likely passed 12M by the end of Semptember (huehue dat 11.4M on front page) so you think they can't sell 4/5M for last 3 and most important months of the year? Sounds logical...

Dudes, I said this back in august^^

Still don't believe that 17m is easily achievable though. 5m in 10 weeks? Seems a lot.



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