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famousringo said:
So what I'm mostly getting here is that you want the next handheld to be a Vita, maybe with two screens.

Honestly, I'm not sure Nintendo should spend any more resources on the handheld market. Japanese third parties and indies are the only other people making games for it, and the burden of being the driving force behind handheld consoles is detracting from the resources Nintendo can bring to bear on home consoles, which have a somewhat brighter future.

The solution might be to integrate handheld and home console into a single entertainment strategy, but the execution is riddled with pitfalls and the payoff might not really be worth it.


...Not at all. And I would riot if Nintendo stopped making handhelds.



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just one screen plz



I want it to be a Vita minus the back touchpad and with a large system memory and longer battery life. Having 2 screens would be alright, but I feel like having one better screen is better. Price doesn't matter to me as long is it matches the specs.



LTric1979 said:
Nothing, because like the usual Sony PSP3/PSVita 2 will be outperform it. 3DS sucks, but the games sells it.


That is if such handheld ever exists.



3G? Why? You're just pushing up the price for a data connection that is outclassed in every way now by HSPA+ and LTE.



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Sounds like you want the Vita.



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spemanig said:
famousringo said:
So what I'm mostly getting here is that you want the next handheld to be a Vita, maybe with two screens.

Honestly, I'm not sure Nintendo should spend any more resources on the handheld market. Japanese third parties and indies are the only other people making games for it, and the burden of being the driving force behind handheld consoles is detracting from the resources Nintendo can bring to bear on home consoles, which have a somewhat brighter future.

The solution might be to integrate handheld and home console into a single entertainment strategy, but the execution is riddled with pitfalls and the payoff might not really be worth it.


...Not at all. And I would riot if Nintendo stopped making handhelds.


Here's the problem. We are three years and seven months into the current handheld generation, and the 3DS has sold 44.2 million units while the PSV has sold 8.7M. A the same point in the last cycle, the DS had moved 74 million units and the PSP 38.6M.

That's a 40% collapse in DS sales and over a 50% collapse in the handheld market as a whole. Western publishers have already jumped ship, and Japanese publishers are making their exit now. The only company pushing handhelds right now is Nintendo, with a string of extremely compelling games.

Part of me thinks, "Hey, it's Nintendo's market. Why not ride it until handhelds become truly unsustainable?"

And the answer is opportunity cost. What if all those software titles that drove people to buy a 3DS drove them to buy a Wii U instead? What would Nintendo's fortunes look like if they were strong in a market that hasn't already been abandoned by everybody else? Hell, the 3DS is already a home console in my usage patterns, and I doubt I'm alone.

Unless Nintendo can pull out a Wii-like innovation that makes people set down their tablets and smartphones and pick up a handheld, they should focus on leveraging their handheld assets into home consoles. Maybe a Wii 3 tablet that you can actually load up with games and play away from home.



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1.) Make whatever you want, I will buy it.
2.) Put a new Pokemon game on it.
That is what I need n the next handheld.



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famousringo said:
spemanig said:
famousringo said:
So what I'm mostly getting here is that you want the next handheld to be a Vita, maybe with two screens.

Honestly, I'm not sure Nintendo should spend any more resources on the handheld market. Japanese third parties and indies are the only other people making games for it, and the burden of being the driving force behind handheld consoles is detracting from the resources Nintendo can bring to bear on home consoles, which have a somewhat brighter future.

The solution might be to integrate handheld and home console into a single entertainment strategy, but the execution is riddled with pitfalls and the payoff might not really be worth it.


...Not at all. And I would riot if Nintendo stopped making handhelds.


Here's the problem. We are three years and seven months into the current handheld generation, and the 3DS has sold 44.2 million units while the PSV has sold 8.7M. A the same point in the last cycle, the DS had moved 74 million units and the PSP 38.6M.

That's a 40% collapse in DS sales and over a 50% collapse in the handheld market as a whole. Western publishers have already jumped ship, and Japanese publishers are making their exit now. The only company pushing handhelds right now is Nintendo, with a string of extremely compelling games.

Part of me thinks, "Hey, it's Nintendo's market. Why not ride it until handhelds become truly unsustainable?"

And the answer is opportunity cost. What if all those software titles that drove people to buy a 3DS drove them to buy a Wii U instead? What would Nintendo's fortunes look like if they were strong in a market that hasn't already been abandoned by everybody else? Hell, the 3DS is already a home console in my usage patterns, and I doubt I'm alone.

Unless Nintendo can pull out a Wii-like innovation that makes people set down their tablets and smartphones and pick up a handheld, they should focus on leveraging their handheld assets into home consoles. Maybe a Wii 3 tablet that you can actually load up with games and play away from home.

Im not sure that mobile devices are killing handheld consoles, I think its more like they are causing sales to revert back to pre-DS/PSP levels.

Gameboy+Gameboy Color sold just under 120 million from 1989-2003, which accounts for 2 generations worth of sales.

Gameboy Advance did a little over 80 million from 2001-2008

Basically before DS, Nintendo handhelds sold on average about 65 million each generation which 3DS is on track to do.



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zorg1000 said:

Im not sure that mobile devices are killing handheld consoles, I think its more like they are causing sales to revert back to pre-DS/PSP levels.

Gameboy+Gameboy Color sold just under 120 million from 1989-2003, which accounts for 2 generations worth of sales.

Gameboy Advance did a little over 80 million from 2001-2008

Basically before DS, Nintendo handhelds sold on average about 65 million each generation which 3DS is on track to do.


You need to look at it as a trend, rather than hoping handhelds will hit a floor and stop falling. The average isn't what's important, what's important is that handheld sales grew steadily until 2008, and then declined ever since.

If the 3DS has a successor, expect its market to also decline, perhaps even by 50%. If handled properly, Nintendo could probably still make money off a 30-40 million lifetime handheld, but the generation after that could be very problematic. And if you look at Nintendo software's ability to push hardware, you've gotta wonder if they aren't better off consolidating that system-selling into just one platform instead of two.

Then again, perhaps the way forward is Smash Bros. Nintendo simply develops one game with both a handheld and home console skin. Customers can buy the game and console twice if they want to, or choose the one they like best.



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