If linkz had played and was town, do you think you would have had the supprt you needed to win?
Yeah, if I had either Hatmoza or Linkz we would have raped.
At one point, I really trusted sparks, but that went all out the window when he started giving himself excuses to fuck up. Like the cone kill. I told him khan or hylian.
That one shot sealed us into defeat. If I was the vig I would've shot hylian day one.
THe other thing is town really didn't have any role support whatsoever.
We had a tracker who couldn't do anything right, a cop who continued pursuing a player he had already cleared and then DIDN'T tell us he was ALSO A COP until he was dead. I thought he was just a role cop of sorts.
Outlaw - non-participant. Made very questionable claims. attacked me constantly for no reason. Looked completely scum to me.It's just really bad luck that outlaw wasn't scum. He easily could have been. I was hot on khan and nickles and noname. It was just a series of unfortunate events, lack of town power supports, and lack of town experience. It really was an all out disaster.
I'm going to try harder to get better.
The problem is, I have a hard time convincing people to vote scum. Day 1 I wanted hylian so bad. I don't know why people weren't listening to me.
I like how I'm a non-participant and others who did far less. I also don't understand why people are saying I attacked prof. I only answered questions and responded to him. It got to that point towards to the end, and I even pointed out that how little prof had on me and he just had blinders that made try and find anything he could to justify offing me.
Once agian, I never even made a slightly negative comment towards you until the last day. The only "claim" I made was only after padib asked me to share a theory I wasn't 100% on. :vomit:
See, to me the answer is because since you KNEW you were town, the stuff that you did didn't seem scummy. So naturally, you thought that I only had little. But I pretty much had as much on you as I did on nickles and khan. Probably a bit more on them. I think everyone would agree that my case was pretty good. Sure it wasn't perfect, but we didn't see much in the way of perfect this game either.
Thinking back on it, really the only thing I had preventing me from going after you was your role. You claimed to be a fighter and vanilla, which coincidentally was the exact class and role I had, but there wasn't much else. For nickles and khan and hylian too, there was a whole lot of posts that just screamed town to me. I had to ignore those things as well. See, for me it was really difficult cutting through all the filler and finding the right points against them. In much the same way, I had to discount things that made you town as well.
As far as the non-participant thing... yes there were others that did less. Wright did far far less, but his logic against cone was accurate, and actually worked. Cone WAS hiding something. He WAS getting defensive and backed in to a corner. That was why, early on when I saw cone claim doc, that I knew wright was town. Through his efforts he PROVED that he was hunting. It only took him 4 posts. Sometimes, you only need one post to say, "yes, that person is actively trying to resolve suspicions". You just never seemed to get there. It's not that I needed you to post more, I just needed you to post something.
Like, for nickles, I had to ignore that he was a claimed tracker. I had to ignore that he was actively hunting scum. I had to ignore posts that he said by mistake in lieu of being new to the game. Nickles had so much play that I had to ignore in order to suspect him. You had very little to ignore. When I got to the point where it was simply easier to think of you as scum than it was to ignore your contributions, that was when my suspicions changed.
For Wright, he did very little to warrant suspicions. Inactive? Ok, not a huge deal. Cryptic? he's a noob, try to overlook it. He's scumhunting, that I can see, and his logic makes sense. You never gave me an excuse to think you were town. WHen I questioned you, you pointed the finger at others, or questioned why you were being questioned. Which is something both nickles and khan had been doing all game.
I thought nickles was scum roleblocker.
I thought khan was scum bomb.
To me, if you had a role, it would be one that was more important to get out of the way than those two...like the day talk enabler for instance.
That was why I picked you over the others.
Again, I take the blame for the loss. You don't know how many times I wish I could have gone back and changed to khan. All day I've been thinking like this. But where it stands, we needed 4 mafia kills in a row, and every day we would lose another townie. If I had died tonight, do you think we could have gotten all 4? Even one mislynch was end of game. Could you, or padib and white have figured it all out? I honestly don't think so. Not that I'm pointing the finger at anyone. I'm just saying that this was a hard game. All around.