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I hope Activision/Ubisoft will do the same actually.

I'm spending so much money in games coming from those 3 per year. For me it will just save me money, it is as easy as that.

I'm going to pay way more at the end of the year if I did not have this 10% discount.
The 10% off DLC/Games, I need something like 3/4 games (which is way more I buy per year from them) plus all the DLC (or passes). And everything I'm buying on Xbox One is digital so the discount will apply.

Add to that the vault which give me access to games I would not buy otherwise and the early access.

So in my case (and many other), it is just simple math :)



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Kyuu said:
Raziel123 said:
You know the OP is right when all you hear is "b-b-b-but PS now!"

Yeah it's a ridiculous comparison anyway.

- PS Now does NOT require a console. The cloud-gaming/Gaikai purpose was initially an attempt to compensate for the lack of Backwards-Compatibility. When you're renting a game, you're basically renting a console alongside it.

- PS Now is a live game streaming service. It goes without saying.. this costs extra money.

- PS Now is on beta phase. Sony said it loud and clear that they're considering a subscription-based service. "We’ve heard you loud and clear for an update on a PS Now subscription option and want to reassure you that we are working on it"

- Sony has NO CONTROL whatsoever over third party content! The service isn't exclusive to their own games like EA Access is to EA. Third party publishers are still unsure whether this will be a success.

Some people will of course continue to ignore all of that.

while i agree the comparions dont really work but

1) you need a ps4, ps3, psvita, pstv, or a 2014 bravia tvs

2)i agree with that one

3)so is the ea access

4)and i agree with that one to



Squeezol said:
PullusPardus said:
Playstation Now is a bigger rip off though, so they have no right to call EA out.


This.  And people just seem to like to pick on EA if they do something good. 

Playstation NoW is cheaper than renting games on a local rental shop I dont realy get how that is a rip off.

For the guy above me, BraviaTv is not a console and you can own a Vita and play PS4 games, or own a PS3 and play PS4 and Vita games. Its a completly different service from this Ea subscription thing were they give you some selected games in a Vault and they reserve the right to simply change the games completly out of the blue and stop giving you acess to somethign you liked.



After reading OP I'm even more inclined to get this subscription now, thanks! 

Too much guesswork and what ifs with no real substantial evidence to back up your claim. 



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DerNebel said:
Normchacho said:
DerNebel said:
Serisouly, can someone tell me why this doesn't come to PC?


Cause....ssshhhuuuttt up. In all seriousness though I think it's just because it's going to be exclusive to the Xbox One.

Ok, but even if, why is it exclusive?

Did MS pay for it or does EA think that PC gamers wouldn't use the service?


Probably a bit of both. I imagine MS and EA thought this would be a mutually benificial and EA just doesn't see it working on PC or possibly getting in the way of Origin.



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DerNebel said:
Serisouly, can someone tell me why this doesn't come to PC?


The PC masterrace knows how EA works and wouldnt buy it.  it looks like a good offering, but Pc gamers dont trust EA anymore for good reasons.



prinz_valium said:

-  u need a vita, or playstaion tv, or new 2014 bravia tv, or playstion for ps now

- "ps now games may differ, or lack some of the features that can be found in downloaded or disc based version"

and this:

- ea acces let u chose to rent for a mont or year, if u like the game(s), currently offered, or not. if u dont like them any more. dont subscrice any longer. dont see the point there. they wont drop the games after 2 weeks ofc..

Yikes, I could get two years of EA access for $60. Or 90 days of F1 for $50.



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Kyuu said:
Raziel123 said:
You know the OP is right when all you hear is "b-b-b-but PS now!"

Yeah it's a ridiculous comparison anyway.

- PS Now does NOT require a console. The cloud-gaming/Gaikai purpose was initially an attempt to compensate for the lack of Backwards-Compatibility. When you're renting a game, you're basically renting a console alongside it.

- PS Now is a live game streaming service. It goes without saying.. this costs extra money.

- PS Now is on beta phase. Sony said it loud and clear that they're considering a subscription-based service. "We’ve heard you loud and clear for an update on a PS Now subscription option and want to reassure you that we are working on it"

- Sony has NO CONTROL whatsoever over third party content! The service isn't exclusive to their own games like EA Access is to EA. Third party publishers are still unsure whether this will be a success.

Some people will of course continue to ignore all of that.


Do you even realize how much you're ignoring?

 

1: Sure, but if you plan on renting multiple games and using the service often, the price of buying a console along with the games would be comparable except for the fact you actually get to KEEP everything when you buy it.

 

2: Fair enough, but 4.99 for a 4 hour rental? No thanks especially when you can buy some

of the games near that price.

 

3: Also fair, but the term "beta" now a days is being thrown left and right. Technically, the system is in beta, but its

not a beta when publicly released. If it is, Sony's making you pay extreme prices for a product that's not yet finished. Don't use the excuse "Oh Sony will make the prices cheaper." I'm sure they will, but shouldn't Sony have already pushed for the cheapest prices possible? If Sony really wasn't in it for a good profit, wouldn't those prices have started off in closed beta?

 

4: When buying Access, if you don't know it's exclusive to EA then you have problems. The thing with Access is $5 a MONTH for unlimited access to the current vault of games. Even if it's one game, it will almost always be worth it.

 

Now please stop bowing down to Sony like they are a king



Err.. a lot of this is just hypothetical worrying type stuff.  Doesn't anyone remember people saying the same type of stuff about PS+? A lot of it is the same crap people said back then.

"EA don't access"

Your main beef here seems to be the mere possibility that EA can pull a "bait and switch" tactic and screw people over. Why would they pull something like that? Be logical about it. Which of these sounds better for EA:

A) a steady stream of revenue from subscriptions, be them month to month or yearly
B) a quick surge of one month subscriptions thanks to one or two big games they put on it then quickly remove it which sours a majority of people on the service and they never come back

The best option is A by far. It makes no sense at all for EA to engage in, well, really most of the stuff in your post, but this one is the most reaching by far. The rest of this point stems from the speculation about shit you don't know yet. For example, how long will FIFA 14 be on the service? Peggle 2? Battlefield 4? It might be nice that 6 months after you download a game on PS+/GwG you can go back and play still play it but chances are there's probably a reason you didn't play it for those 6 months. You make a lot of comparisons to PS+/GwG but fail to realize it's a different service for different people. It's for EA enthusiasts. So there shouldn't be "months in a row" where no game appeals to you. Otherwise, why'd you sign up? It's for EA games. Also, both of those services have put shovelware and mobile ports on their service, so why shit on the mere speculation that EA might do it? If and when they add those types of games, you can thank MicroSony.


"Slippery slope"

More sheer speculation. You have no idea if those games would have come to PS+ or not if it weren't for EA Access. Do you know what Sony pays a company like EA to put games like that on the service? Can you then compare that to what they'd have continued to make at retail, and/or what impact they'd have made on EA Access? No? Well then shit. Seems like a majority of the logic is based on unicorn farts. Oh and also, aren't those last gen titles? Why would they matter to EA Access? That service is next gen only.

If all those other companies put up their own services then that's great. The only people who benefit are the consumers. And you're at least right about one thing. If you don't like it you don't have to subscribe. As for what happens with PS+ and GwG, MicroSony will simply have to step their game up. Idk why as a gamer you'd be more satisfied with the status quo than the possibility of competition spurring improvement. Next gen has been here what, almost 9 months now? Have we gotten a single retail next gen title for free on either platform? EA is here offering not one, not two, but three next gen retail titles available day one, plus an amazing digital only title, and for a yearly fee essentially half of what the other guys charge. Now imagine if Ubi and Crapcom and Activision followed suit.

If you're a fan of those studios, awesome. Subscribe and enjoy. If not, oh well. What changes for you? Nothing.


"Slipperier scope"


Well, nothing changes in reality anyway. When you add conspiracy theories and hypotheticals, anything can change. There was no need for you to make seperate "slipper scope" sections and then claim one is hypothetical, they both are completely hypothetical. By the way, as I said at the top, you realize this is recycled doomsday stuff from PS+? When was the last time you saw PS+ with exclusive DLC?

Why would EA alienate a bulk of their consumers by offering exclusive DLC to their vault? Unlike PS+ and GwG, which 100% of the online playing crowd on MicroSony consoles are subscribed to, EA knows a majority of their consumers won't be vault subscribers. A much more logical solution would be they offer discounts on that DLC. And hey what do you know! 10% off all digital game purchases and DLC when you are an EA Access subscriber.

The incentive part about dropping price on games makes no sense either. Most people going into Gamestop to buy a disc based game aren't the types of people EA is catering to here. And why do you "(fake) appearance of a cheap alternative" in there? If you're interested in EA's games, their Access program IS a cheap way to play their games. Right now the 4 games they have in their vault retail for well over $100. Doesn't sound too fake to me, idk.

The part about selling your consoles to go somewhere that they don't get in bed to screw consumers is especially funny. Forcing companies to go through PS+ to offer games is also screwing consumers. So get dressed and head up to Gamestop and trade your shit in for a Wii U.



Sweep said:
IMHO : They (MS & EA) are slyly trying to revive the policies everyone was angered about with the X1 unveil.

They'll start doing the good guys giving access to games for a competitive price and if successfull, the service will slowly evolve until they lock you with their terms & conditions

IMHO, MS & EA can't be trusted anymore. They want to set their DRM policies back and they'll do whatever it takes to mandate them


Sony isn't much better. They're pushing digital sales because it benefits them, you lose access to game if you cancel your PS+ subscription, it cost money to play games online, they mocked EA Access because it didn't benefit PS+, and PS Now is looking like a cash grab.

Nobody is more sly than Sony. They seem about as anti-consumer as MS but don't get the criticism.



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