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Euphoria14 said:
Back when we had Blockbuster it was like $8 for 5-days.

Today we have Redbox which is $2/day or $14 for 7-days.


Now $8 for 7-days is bad? Where have people been living where they did not pay attention to rental prices? What did they want, $2 for a week rental?

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gergroy said:
Fusioncode said:
gergroy said:
how sony monetized playstation now was always their biggest barrier to overcome. They obviously still haven't figured it out. (here is a hint Sony, subscription model!)

Do you really think Sony hasn't considered doing a subscription model? It's not exactly easy to implement considering how many publishers are involved. 

Well, If I were Sony, I would have figured it out before bringing it to the market.  All they are doing is turning people off from the service as it is.  It would have been better for them to hold off and get all their ducks in a row before prematurely launching to a negative reaction like it is getting now.  Much like the x1 reveal...

There is going to be a subscription plan. It was stated in the video on their Youtube channel. Honestly I really dont see how this will work without a subscription. 



The 30-90 day prices seem pretty good. Even the 7 day one is good, $1 a day is good. The 4 hour thing is stupid as shit though. Just do 24 hours $1.99 and be done with it.

Also they should have a subscription for those of us who don't want do deal with rentals. Something like 6-12 bucks a month gets us the ability to play any game we want at any time.



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People complaining about the rental price and comparing to cheap used always find all games they want dirty cheap? Because I remember Sony saying they plan on getting "all ps3 games" on psnow.

And about subscription, if it is ilimited and include the whole library of ps1+2+3 then anything less than 20 a month will be unprofitabble unless they only put 1st parties.

Maybe with psnow and things like EA vault we start to see something like cable TV and make your own package of devs.



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kowenicki said:
BMaker11 said:
kowenicki said:


So sony only has the resource, power and tech of Onlive?  Gotcha.

I dont realise, thanks for filling me in.  In that case...you are right, they best stick to an unattractive pricing strructure to limit take up.

Spoken like someone who clearly hasn't tried PSNow. I was in the private beta. There were some compression artifacts in some of the games, but nothing as crappy as "playing PS3 on a standard definition 480p tv". But for the most part, they looked good at 720p. In fact, the only game that looked sub par was Way of the Samurai 3.....and the game looks crappy on native hardware, so I'm not even going to hold it against that.

And the input was great, other than when there was a hiccup (like when once in a while, a Netflix video will hiccup and drop to like 384p, but then shoots back up to 1080p). Framerate was smooth as well. 

You'd know that if you actually tried it. But I guess you're just being you.


So.. they can afford a robust service. Good. (Might be under a bit more stress with a million or two hammering it at once mind you - but I digress)

Now, if they backtrack and offer a decent priced sub service... what then?  Will you be happy? Or, as an obvious sony fan, be angry that they are risking profits and ultimatetly service and your playstation future?

I'm perpexed by your stance.

You say they cant offer that service at a reasonable price, its impossible due to infrastructure costs, so if they do...?  what then? 

In other words... do you want/would you welcome a sub service for $10 or $15 per month or not?

Oh man....you're gonna go in any which direction to try and spin it negatively, aren't you?  

I don't care about them risking profits. As long as my experience is good, then I am fine. You are still stuck on the price being unreasonable, but I and several other people have shown you that the pricing is actually on par or better than current other rental services. Just because it's not the Netflix model doesn't mean it it's bad. 

I would much rather pay $8 and get a game for a week, then get a hard copy for $14 a week. I would much rather pay $20 and get 2 games for a month instantly, than pay $23 a month for 2 games (out at a time) and have to wait on shipping and possibly not be able to get the games I want due to limited supply. I especially would prefer that if I was someone without a PS3. What's unreasonable about that other than "It's Sony. So it's bad"?

You keep saying "$10-15 a month" is the "reasonable price" for a subscription model and it would be brilliant.....yet you also tried to use OnLive to refute me, which is burning through cash to support a measly 1800 concurrent users with a $8 subscription, and the experience is shitty to boot. Obviously your "reasonable price" of $10 ain't good enough (unless you think $2 is the difference maker (between OnLive's $8 and your proposed $10)). 

If Sony offered a $10 subcription, though, and the experience was good, I'd totally welcome it. But it also means they are taking losses elsewhere, which ultimately still affect me. So actually, I don't know if I'd welcome it. I don't care about their profits (PS3 was in the red for m ost of it's life), but if the costs > the revenue with a $10 sub, and they start having to take cuts elsewhere (halting development on new IPs for example), well, I think my "Playstation future" trumps old titles. 



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Vena said:
BMaker11 said:

Spoken like someone who clearly hasn't tried PSNow. I was in the private beta. There were some compression artifacts in some of the games, but nothing as crappy as "playing PS3 on a standard definition 480p tv". But for the most part, they looked good at 720p. In fact, the only game that looked sub par was Way of the Samurai 3.....and the game looks crappy on native hardware, so I'm not even going to hold it against that.

And the input was great, other than when there was a hiccup (like when once in a while, a Netflix video will hiccup and drop to like 384p, but then shoots back up to 1080p). Framerate was smooth as well. 

You'd know that if you actually tried it. But I guess you're just being you.

Its closed beta. Do you realize how minimal the stress on their servers is in such a scenario? And how much smoother it will feel to you, one of only a few, using all that available bandwidth without any competition. Scale whatever artifacts and compression and streaming issues (hiccups or otherwise) you may have had by several orders of magnititude once this goes live and if anyone actually pays for it and uses it.

Why do you think it's still in beta and made it open now? To stress test and collect feedback on prices. They've already said they're gonna adjust the 4-hour price to $1.99, for example. I think they should get rid of that altogether and just give demos, but they are making sure that when it's rolled out, it'll be a good service



The main thing turning me off is that it's a streaming service but I suppose that might be the only option they have to make sure people don't figure out a way to keep the games. It would be nice if they had a short trial to test out how well the service is or a cheaper price for the 4 hour option.

I'm not really sure what they can do to make everyone happy, it sounds like a nice idea but I'm still quite skeptical about the execution.



The pricing on PS Now is ridiculous since it is an all digital streaming service with alot higher turnaround on games than a physical renting service. Hopefully when others follow suit, prices will drop fast.



I can rent older game titles from the local DVD rental store for $5 or less and that's New Zealand dollars, PS Now should be $3.99 for a week and $2.99 for up to 5 4hr rentals for 5 different games. If it's a game that can be finished in 4 hours then it's not worth more than that and for everything else its a taster and if you like it you'll end up getting the 1 week rental anyway.

Subscription model is essential and I don't understand why Sony didn't realise it now needed to be the central plank of PS Now right from the start.

The only right decision they've made is to call this a Beta so all the changes they make are part of the development cycle rather than desperate attempts to keep the service viable. At least that's the PR angle. I just hope the beta users get some compensation for the money they waste helping Sony to figure out what they should have known from the beginning.

I'm excited for what this service might become, but right now it looks bad and headed towards failure.



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kowenicki said:
DonFerrari said:

People complaining about the rental price and comparing to cheap used always find all games they want dirty cheap? Because I remember Sony saying they plan on getting "all ps3 games" on psnow.

And about subscription, if it is ilimited and include the whole library of ps1+2+3 then anything less than 20 a month will be unprofitabble unless they only put 1st parties.

Maybe with psnow and things like EA vault we start to see something like cable TV and make your own package of devs.


why?

 

License cost, server costs and not making the new game market seem to expensive with 60 a pop.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."