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michael_stutzer on 02 August 2014

A lot of people who do not have a Playstation product seem to be genuinely interested in TLOU. Seems like the remaster was well worth the effort.



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GribbleGrunger on 02 August 2014

Why do people get upset and feel it necessary to air their views when they don't own a PS4?

Serious question.



 

The PS5 Exists. 


Zekkyou on 02 August 2014
michael_stutzer said:
A lot of people who do not have a Playstation product seem to be genuinely interested in TLOU. Seems like the remaster was well worth the effort.

ND must find it quite flattering :p Near universal praise from your players is one thing, but this much attention from other player bases too? Now you know you've created a master piece



FromDK on 02 August 2014
Zekkyou said:
michael_stutzer said:
A lot of people who do not have a Playstation product seem to be genuinely interested in TLOU. Seems like the remaster was well worth the effort.

ND must find it quite flattering :p Near universal praise from your players is one thing, but this much attention from other player bases too? Now you know you've created a master piece

Mayby u never go into WiiU/One Treads.. but i garantee you it's the same..  Games like MK8 or Titanfall got a lot of "hate" from people not even having the console..

By the way i saw tlou on ps3.. and it was (not my type of game) pretty impressing.. mayby even a "master piece" :)



Zekkyou on 02 August 2014
FromDK said:
Zekkyou said:
michael_stutzer said:
A lot of people who do not have a Playstation product seem to be genuinely interested in TLOU. Seems like the remaster was well worth the effort.

ND must find it quite flattering :p Near universal praise from your players is one thing, but this much attention from other player bases too? Now you know you've created a master piece

Mayby u never go into WiiU/One Treads.. but i garantee you it's the same..  Games like MK8 or Titanfall got a lot of "hate" from people not even having the console..

By the way i saw tlou on ps3.. and it was (not my type of game) pretty impressing.. mayby even a "master piece" :)

Every good/successful game gets hate. It's more the length of time TLOU has managed to keep the hate train running that's impressive

No game has been able to get other player bases this riled up since Super Mario Galaxy and Uncharted 2 (both of which would also qualify as "masterpieces" in my mind :p).



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overman1 on 02 August 2014
QuintonMcLeod said:
overman1 said:
QuintonMcLeod said:
overman1 said:
QuintonMcLeod said:
overman1 said:

Yes, it is.

Whether yuo like it or not, this game will sell, you dont have to buy it because clearly you are a Nintendo fan infact i believe this game is actually moving consoles too because the PS4 console moved from the 11th spot on the Amazon best seller to the 5th spot and it has been that way since this game came out. So yes, the demand is very much there. If you cant acknowledge that; your cup of tea. 


I'm not saying the game won't sell. However it being a blockbuster hit and selling over a million within the first week is highly unlikely.

And lets say it does happen. Lets say it does sell over a million within its first week. What then?  We can expect other companies to follow suit with this, and soon the PS4 would be chalked full of "remasters".  PS4 owners wouldn't be too happy, just like they aren't too happy about the huge influx of indie titles on their system.

1) lol I never said it would be a blockbuster hit, I said it would sell well  (future tense, pay attention). and it kept to that predition. TLOU already sold 7 million copys on the PS3 and I am cool with that. If it can sell 2 million on the PS4, that will be more than satisfying.

2) Also this is the vey first remake of a PS exclusive. Where did you get the news of the PS4 being "chalked full " of remasters. Isnt MS coming out with the Master Chief Collections? the same ONE number of remasters that the PS4 has?

 

3) Also, what makes you think  PS4 owners are mad about the indies on the system? the typical PS4 owner knows that more exclusives are coming in the future and there are a lot of third party games still here. I really think people wouldnt be so discouraging if the PS4 wasnt outselling their favourite console. 

4) PS: No Man's Sky is an indie game; guess the influx of indies isnt really a bad thing if we can get something like that every 2 years on the indie side. guess who is clamouring for it now: Xbox fanboys dissing the PS4 about indies...


Lets address your points separately, shall we?

 

1) Well, "Will sell well" and "has sold well" are two different meanings. So, whatever "prediction" you're referring to, I'm certain it's not about TLoU:RE, because there aren't any official sales numbers on that game yet. (DId you even, read me post properly, or you just see what you what to see?)

2) I never said the PS4 was chalked full of remasters.  I was speaking theoretically. If TLoU sells a bunch, it will certainly lead to other companies following suit. As for the Master Chief Collection: That is a collection of games. Not only that, but Halo 1 and Halo 2 were given more than just increased resolutions and better textures. Also, it's not called "Remastered". By all intent and purposes, the Master Chief Collection seems like a better deal since it's 4 games for the price of one.

3) I hear many Sony fans complain about how they bought the PS4 for a next-gen experience while only being promised indie titles. Makes sense to me. People were promised 1080p/60fps graphics and a huge generational leap, but instead, were given indie games that don't look any more dazzling than what the Wii U can produce. As far as the future is concerned, buying a console for its potential future games is a terrible reason to buy a console. You buy a console for the games it has available right now. In the future, the PS4 may end up with a price drop with an decent exclusive pack-in. Or, on the other hand, the PS4 may never get the games you want. You honestly don't know. Also, who cares who's piece of plastic outsells another's piece of plastic? You don't work for Sony and I certainly don't work for Nintendo. Heck, I own a PS3 and I'm thoroughly enjoying it. I also have a beefy gaming rig in which I can play 3rd party games in 1080p/60fps or even 4k resolutions. Why care about how well the PS4 is selling or how poorly the Xbone is selling? Just play your games and be happy. 

(all this lines right here is of you now being theoretical; also, all of this is unfounded) 

4) Who cares?  (you seem to do very much, your entire last point was you subtly dissing the indies on the PS4) I certainly don't. Sony fans are the one's complaining about Sony focusing more on indie titles than AAA titles. I honestly think indies are the future of the industry and I definitely welcome the indie scene. 

PS:
a) I really dont care what the Xbox sales are...

Seriously, that is definitely something I can say I dont care about...

b) On the other hand, I would like for Sony to do well, because I believe they need this more than anyone else. 

c) Also, which Sony fans are complaining? people keep throwing blanket statements around...idk. All Sony fans are disappointed now? Yet, the system is still selling like crazy...too much indies and one remaster and not too many exclusives in the FIRST YEAR of a console's life cycle. UNHEARD OF!!!

d) Also, how many exclusive does Exclusives Champion Microsoft have on the Xbox One? I mean they have only one remaster. so, how many RELEASED (keyword here) exclusives do they have now? I will wait.....

e) Also, is MS's "remaster" all of a sudden different from a regular remaster now? Please, do tell me the requirement for something to be classified as a remaster again. 

f) What makes you think all games are worth of a remasters? the Ps3 and Xbox one had tonnes of remasters and neither of them lacked for exclusives. you are projecting right now....

g) At the end of the day, if the ps4 is doing as badly as you say, Then, it shouldnt sell as well as it is doing now. Guess Sony got something right. So, calm down, because nobody was blaming you for being a plastic defender, and enjoy the ride. It should be a short one, the way i see it. 

I've noticed you've underlined and added comments to what I said. I'll address those and then I'll reply to the rest.

 

1) The key phrase you said was, "And it kept to that prediction." The phrase insinuates that TLoU:RE sold as well as you predicted it would. It wouldn't make much sense for you to talk about a prediction you had for the PS3 version if a) I've never heard of this prediction before speaking with you. b) You've added no further context. This is why I made the distinction between "will sell" and "would sell". There is a difference.

2) That is true. I never said the PS4 (keyword) "WAS" chalked full of remasters. You harp on me about my reading comprehension, but you clearly have trouble with what I'm telling you. Anyway, once again, I said, "Let's say TLoU sold well. Other companies will follow suit and then the PS4 _WILL_ be chalked full of remasters". See what I did there? I paraphrased it for you so you could understand. If English is not your first language, I certainly can understand. However, "will" and "was" have two different meanings.

3) It's certainly not unfounded. 5 minutes on N4G will prove this to be true. Anecdotal it may be, but unfounded? It definitely is not. The rest is simply my opinion - and it's my opinion versus yours. If you recall, you did say the typical PS4 owner knows there are exclusives coming. However, that would be your opinion, because you have no proof on what the "typical PS4" owner knows. This is just an assumption you created that you and I can both agree upon. Nothing wrong with that.

4) I haven't dissed a single indie. You're reading too far into what I'm saying. I told you that Sony fans appear to be upset with the influx of indies on their system because they were promised the next generation of graphics with 1080p and 60fps. This is what I said. 

a) Me either. Hey, that makes the two of us.

b) I don't care about Sony either, but I understand that competition needs to exist for the market to be fair to the consumer.

c) The system is doing very well. Unfortunately, software on the system is not. The PS4's attachment rates are very very low. It's highest selling game is COD at a little less than 2 and a half million sold.

d) Err... The Xbone has more exclusives than the PS4 right now, and has more on the way... But you knew this, right?

e) No. I'm not interested in getting into this debate (again). 

f) I never debated this.

g) No one said the PS4 was doing badly (outside of software sales). Also, I haven't defended a single piece of plastic while talking to you.

D) name them...



QuintonMcLeod on 02 August 2014
overman1 said:D) name them...

 


http://www.denofgeek.us/games/ps4-vs-xbox-one/235126/ps4-vs-xbox-one-6-months-later

 

There's no need to name them. There's proof.



DerNebel on 02 August 2014
QuintonMcLeod said:
overman1 said:D) name them...

 

http://www.denofgeek.us/games/ps4-vs-xbox-one/235126/ps4-vs-xbox-one-6-months-later

 

There's no need to name them. There's proof.

This proves that the X1 has more exclusives on the way...how exactly?



overman1 on 02 August 2014
QuintonMcLeod said:
overman1 said:D) name them...

 


http://www.denofgeek.us/games/ps4-vs-xbox-one/235126/ps4-vs-xbox-one-6-months-later

 

There's no need to name them. There's proof.

http://www.ign.com/wikis/xbox-one/PS4_Games_vs_Xbox_One_Games

here is my "proof"



darkshadow23 on 02 August 2014
jlmurph2 said:
darkshadow23 said:
jlmurph2 said:
Dark_Lord_2008 said:
Games like Uncharted, The Last of Us and Grand Theft Auto have enough replay value in the single player game that makes up for lacking multi-player/online modes. Call of Duty, Killzone, Battlefield, Gears of War, Halo etc multi-player modes are much better than the tacked on single player campaign modes. All it comes down to is whether or not you prefer single player or the online/multi-player mode of a game. Getting smashed all day/night and being trashed talked by 12 to 14 year old kids is not much fun for a 20 to 30+ adult gamer.

Not sure what you mean but single player in Halo and Gears are in no way "tacked on". They are a rare type of game that people love for single and multiplayer. Same goes for COD 4 and MW2.

The primary focus of those games are the multiplayer. That doesn't mean the single player is bad though. But more people that buy those games skip out on the single player and go straight to the multiplayer. I know I did on all of the CODs that I bought. I stopped playing COD campaigns after MW2.

You have no idea what you're talking about since 93% of people here have played Halo 4's campaign. Thats a vast majority of people.

http://www.trueachievements.com/Halo-4/achievements.htm?gamerid=436270

The primary focus is the single player. The multiplayer is what gives the game replay value.


I didn't mean more people that buy Halo 4 only play the online instead of both the single player and multiplayer. I meant that if you bought TLOU  you WILL play the single player game. Halo and the other games, there are people that will be skipping through the single player to play the multiplayer.

You stated yourself with proof that 93% played the single player while 7% went to multiplayer first. I don't think there are many people going straight for TLOU's multiplayer without playing the campaign first.