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bluemd on 30 July 2014

I think ps4 is going to win back na this gen, but actually xbox still has a chance. Destiny sales will tell us a lot about the future of next gen consoles in na.



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Dr.Henry_Killinger on 30 July 2014
JayWood2010 said:
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
JayWood2010 said:

 

Invalid, arbitary exculsions based on biases.

Never said 360, DS, or Wii, I said all, so if you exclude any, then its invalid and your changing goalposts to fit your agenda.


Really its biased?   Someone who is comparing 30 years of zelda to 10 years of halo calls me biased xD xD xD Really it sounds like you have an agenda more than anybody else here :D

Yes its biased. You cannot exclude anything, 1 only one exception.

All Zelda vs All Halo obviously favors Zelda. Its a matter of 100 something games vs 35 something games.

If you want a fairer comparison, then you can limit the Zelda Games from the time of the release of the First Halo release. It will definetly have Halo above zelda.

However, it still will be closer to Zelda than it is to Mario. If I could use my biggest rodent example once again.

Halo is obviously the biggest rodent (Xbox Game)

Bigger than Zelda which is a mammal (Cat) 

But its not very close to Mario the biggest mammal, the Whale (Nintendo Game

So its closer to Zelda, than Mario.

Even if it is the "biggest"



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BeElite on 30 July 2014
sales2099 said:

Look. The Xbox One has been growing since launch. It's price cut is barely 2 months old. We haven't even mad eit to the first holiday period with the two. Say what you will about Halo, but it's still a massive system seller and doesn't have to be  the #1 shooter to make an impact.

What are you talking about ? sale have not been growing, they get bumped when MS throws everything they can at a given month then fall like a rock.  What exactly is growing.

The debate is not if it will make an impact, its if i can be big enough.  



cpg716 on 30 July 2014
DerNebel said:
cpg716 said:
DerNebel said:

Not saying that UC4 is going to outsell Halo 5, but I think there is a pretty significant growth potential in store for UC4. The simple fact that ND has made TLOU, a game that when all is said and done could possibly sell 10 million or more units, should give UC4 a real boost in exposure, cause even if ND has always been a studio that was regarded very highly among PS fans, it was still that game that gave them a name that everyone in gaming has heard about, even more than UC2 did before that. Combine that with the game being an exclusive to basically the "worlds favourite console" and it's a guaranteed hit already, I personally expect the game to at least do 7 million.

And Halo could possibly shrink, I don't know that much about it, but I've heard that a lot of people weren't so happy with Halo 4, so who knows. I wouldn't say it's certain that UC4 will outsell Halo 5, but it's definitely not out of the cards.

People always bring up Uncharted..    Uncharted 3 sold LESS then Uncharted 2..  The series is going down in North America.. not up..  Yes.. Halo is going down also.. but Halo 4 outsold Uncharted 3 by 2.5 times in North America.     With around 30 million PS3 consoles Uncharted (2-3) only each sell 2-3 million in North America..   Halo (3-4) each sold 6-7 million in North America.. 

It would have to be one MAJOR shift in North America for Uncharted 4 sales to come anywhere NEAR Halo 5..    But you never know.. 

I'm not talking about North America only I'm talking about worldwide, in NA Halo 5 will outsell UC4 (though I think that UC4 should see a rise in NA sales compared to UC3), I have no doubt about that.

Overall worldwide, going by vgchartz data, Uncharted 3 is well on its way to outsell Uncharted 2.

Uncharted 2

2014 67,113 -77.5% 6,398,766

Uncharted 3

2014 135,180 -81.1% 6,368,204

Should easily happen this year.

This thread is about sales in North America.. (USA).   So that is why my point was about NA sales..         



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Predictions on 12/01/15 - Generation 8 Totals:

PS4: 85-95m
X1: 55-65m
WiiU: 20-30m

BeElite on 30 July 2014
Zisbest said:

I wouldn't underestimate the impact of Xbox's few big hitters. Pretty sure Halo and Gears won't leave without quite an impact. At the moment PS4 is taking the lead sure, but the gap isn't that wide. I wouldn't doubt an north american upswing of Xbox One once those exclusives are relased. Rest of the world is a different story though. Europe imo has long sailed.

PS4 has near doubled X1 sales in NA 3 out of the first 6 months of 2014, that quite a wide gap.  Dont let the big launch numbers skew how bad its really doing right now. 



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BMaker11 on 30 July 2014
kitler53 said:
no, no,. not at all. EA access will save the xbox.

where's that damn chalkboard



cpg716 on 30 July 2014
BeElite said:
sales2099 said:

Look. The Xbox One has been growing since launch. It's price cut is barely 2 months old. We haven't even mad eit to the first holiday period with the two. Say what you will about Halo, but it's still a massive system seller and doesn't have to be  the #1 shooter to make an impact.

What are you talking about ? sale have not been growing, they get bumped when MS throws everything they can at a given month then fall like a rock.  What exactly is growing.

The debate is not if it will make an impact, its if i can be big enough.  

Sales for June were almost more then April and May combined..    so that would be growing..    



XBLive: cpg716     PSN ID: cpg716  Steam: Luv4Tech77

Predictions on 12/01/15 - Generation 8 Totals:

PS4: 85-95m
X1: 55-65m
WiiU: 20-30m

Landguy on 30 July 2014
sales2099 said:
Landguy said:
JayWood2010 said:
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:

Ok cool, never said that though. 

75 mill > 53 mill


How about comparing X360 halo to Wii Zelda ;)  Hey you can even throw in DS Zelda

Spoiler Alert: Halo 41m, Zelda 18m

This argument is beat dead!

Comparing two totally different products with two different lifespans will never work. 

They are different, but you have to think what makes them similar.

Spoiler: They are compared for their system selling power to the console they are on.

Not sure how they can compare as system sellers.  Halo blows away Zelda in that respect.

 

Their comparison is just bad.  



It is near the end of the end....

WhiteEaglePL on 30 July 2014

WELP Xbox needs catching up to do.

We know the winner of the gen -PS4 (unless it slows down a lot for some reason.)

Second place? Wii U vs X1 . 2015 could let us see the winner for that title. With new baseline's coming up ect ect.



BMaker11 on 30 July 2014
cpg716 said:
BeElite said:
sales2099 said:

Look. The Xbox One has been growing since launch. It's price cut is barely 2 months old. We haven't even mad eit to the first holiday period with the two. Say what you will about Halo, but it's still a massive system seller and doesn't have to be  the #1 shooter to make an impact.

What are you talking about ? sale have not been growing, they get bumped when MS throws everything they can at a given month then fall like a rock.  What exactly is growing.

The debate is not if it will make an impact, its if i can be big enough.  

Sales for June were almost more then April and May combined..    so that would be growing..    

May was (presumably) down because of the imminent price cut, and June was a 5 week month for NPD. Weekly average was only slightly better than April