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vivster said:
Wow, you really can't be positive about anything.

Are you by chance referring to me? If I sound negative about anything, it's in pure jest, I'm actually pretty positive about most stuff



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pokoko said:
sundin13 said:
vivster said:
Wow, you really can't be positive about anything.


I've always said, the more I like something (anime, movies, music, games), the more difficult it is for me to find some something I love within it, but when I find something I love, I love it way more than I would have ever been able to if I wasn't so critical of everything. While that certainly isn't true for everyone, I don't think that it is a bad way to be. So yeah, me and VanceIX can be negative nancies sometimes, but that is just because we love anime so much...or at least that is how it is for me. I don't want to be putting words in VanceIX's mouth...

PS: I'm Supernatural by that list...hm, maybe I should watch more supernatural anime. I'm jealous of all the January people though :P

When I first started getting into anime, I watched pretty much everything.  It was new, it was different, and it was amazing.  However, as I stumbled upon the best of the best, I came to realize that most anime isn't very good or very original.  The bulk of new anime each season is, at best, forgettable.  There is such a vast gulf between the top level stuff and filler anime which depends entirely on cliches.  As much as anime like Welcome to the NHK, Monster, Serial Experiments Lain, The Girl Who Leapt Through Time, Nichijou, Kare no Kyoukai, and Nodame Cantabile make me fall in love with the potential of the medium, they also make me less likely to be forgiving of the stuff that's just there to occupy a time-slot.

Again with the bashing. Every stuff has its audience. It's not just filler. There are people waiting years for specific animes that you just disregarded as mere filler material.

As I said it's one thing to like only the best animes, it's another to be a dick about everything else.

Also your avatar raises the possibility of your post being sarcasm.



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pokoko said:

When I first started getting into anime, I watched pretty much everything.  It was new, it was different, and it was amazing.  However, as I stumbled upon the best of the best, I came to realize that most anime isn't very good or very original.  The bulk of new anime each season is, at best, forgettable.  There is such a vast gulf between the top level stuff and filler anime which depends entirely on cliches.  As much as anime like Welcome to the NHK, Monster, Serial Experiments Lain, The Girl Who Leapt Through Time, Nichijou, Kara no Kyoukai, and Nodame Cantabile make me fall in love with the potential of the medium, they also make me less likely to be forgiving of the stuff that's just there to occupy a time-slot.


I like your tastes quite a bit ^.^

Anyways, I agree, although I can get a lot of enjoyment out of the "filler anime" each season, because like vivster said, I do try to judge them for what they are trying to be. I'm more harsh on shows like Ga-rei which seem to be trying to do something that I've seen done infinitely better elsewhere. However, most of the slice of life/cute girls doing cute things shows that I watch have no chance of cracking my top 20 because just due to the fact that they accomplished their goal quite well, doesn't put them on the same tier of other more ambitious shows which may have had a few flaws but ultimately provided a more unique and entertaining experience.

Anyways, for me, like I was saying before, I can appreciate all of those top tier shows more, due to the fact that I am so critical. If I could just turn on the radio and find something I liked in two seconds, I wouldn't be super hyped when I find something I liked online just by mere happenstance (which just happened today and I'm super hyped @.@)...

@vivster: I get that it can be off-putting to see someone disliking things that you love yourself (I'm a Skyward Sword fan, I know how it feels), so I will try to tone it down when I can, but when I feel like my negative opinion can add something to a discussion, I wont shy away from chipping in.



sundin13 said:

@vivster: I get that it can be off-putting to see someone disliking things that you love yourself (I'm a Skyward Sword fan, I know how it feels), so I will try to tone it down when I can, but when I feel like my negative opinion can add something to a discussion, I wont shy away from chipping in.

Nothing against constructive criticism.

I am very much used to people not liking the same stuff I am. I am after all a FFXIII worshipper. What I don't like is contentless bashing and just repeating the same stuff every internet troll has said a thousand times before because it absolutely adds nothing. Not that I'm accusing you of this.

 

yet :P



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I'm just gonna step in and say that anime criticism is fine, just don't bash another person's opinion on the anime. As in, if someone says they love SAO II, don't reply to them and say it really isn't that good and their taste is bad. Like vivster said, everyone has tastes and likes different anime.

At the same time, feel free to express criticism for anime, but try and give reasons for why you dislike it, and don't outright bash it.



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vivster said:

Nothing against constructive criticism.

I am very much used to people not liking the same stuff I am. I am after all a FFXIII worshipper. What I don't like is contentless bashing and just repeating the same stuff every internet troll has said a thousand times before because it absolutely adds nothing. Not that I'm accusing you of this.

yet :P


Haha, okay, I'm glad we are both on the same page ^.^

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vivster said:
pokoko said:

When I first started getting into anime, I watched pretty much everything.  It was new, it was different, and it was amazing.  However, as I stumbled upon the best of the best, I came to realize that most anime isn't very good or very original.  The bulk of new anime each season is, at best, forgettable.  There is such a vast gulf between the top level stuff and filler anime which depends entirely on cliches.  As much as anime like Welcome to the NHK, Monster, Serial Experiments Lain, The Girl Who Leapt Through Time, Nichijou, Kare no Kyoukai, and Nodame Cantabile make me fall in love with the potential of the medium, they also make me less likely to be forgiving of the stuff that's just there to occupy a time-slot.

Again with the bashing. Every stuff has its audience. It's not just filler. There are people waiting years for specific animes that you just disregarded as mere filler material.

As I said it's one thing to like only the best animes, it's another to be a dick about everything else.

Also your avatar raises the possibility of your post being sarcasm.

What in particular did I bash?  If I don't like a harem anime that is pretty much the same as several other harem anime I've seen already, that's well with-in my rights.  You're telling me that I'm being a dick because I'm critcal of anime which I think is bad?  Seriously?  Anime is not inherently good.  Just like games, novels, or movies, there is anime that simply isn't all that special or is out-and-out bad.  

If you don't like me not liking every anime out there, honestly, you're just going to have to deal with it.



What we need in here is an anime book club where everyone watches a certain anime and then we'll talk about it.



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pokoko said:
vivster said:
pokoko said:

When I first started getting into anime, I watched pretty much everything.  It was new, it was different, and it was amazing.  However, as I stumbled upon the best of the best, I came to realize that most anime isn't very good or very original.  The bulk of new anime each season is, at best, forgettable.  There is such a vast gulf between the top level stuff and filler anime which depends entirely on cliches.  As much as anime like Welcome to the NHK, Monster, Serial Experiments Lain, The Girl Who Leapt Through Time, Nichijou, Kare no Kyoukai, and Nodame Cantabile make me fall in love with the potential of the medium, they also make me less likely to be forgiving of the stuff that's just there to occupy a time-slot.

Again with the bashing. Every stuff has its audience. It's not just filler. There are people waiting years for specific animes that you just disregarded as mere filler material.

As I said it's one thing to like only the best animes, it's another to be a dick about everything else.

Also your avatar raises the possibility of your post being sarcasm.

What in particular did I bash?  If I don't like a harem anime that is pretty much the same as several other harem anime I've seen already, that's well with-in my rights.  You're telling me that I'm being a dick because I'm critcal of anime which I think is bad?  Seriously?  Anime is not inherently good.  Just like games, novels, or movies, there is anime that simply isn't all that special or is out-and-out bad.

If you don't like me not liking every anime out there, honestly, you're just going to have to deal with it.

You said that certain anime is just there to fill a timeslot. That is a false statement.

That's not stating your opinion. That's devaluing everyone else's.



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vivster said:
What we need in here is an anime book club where everyone watches a certain anime and then we'll talk about it.


....fantastic idea. I'm in!