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TheBlackNaruto said:
Since this thread is STILL going strong I see I will just say what I said again. It is better to just wait and see how this plays out because NONE OF US have enough information on this service to make an accurate judgement on it. We have NO idea how this will all work out. So until then how about we just chill and see how things plays out

Were is the fun in that? Next month we're gonna bash the PS5 and the XboxUnlimited



 

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cpg716 said:
Richard_Feynman said:
Team XBox ganging up on Sony in this thread. It's really funny how wound up we get over insignificant public statements.

Meanwhile the PS4 machine will roll on - beating XBone across the board.

Across the board..   X1 still has a higher game attach rate then the PS4.   Something the X360 did also over the PS3..     so.. not "across the board'.

What is funny is..  Even though people spent MORE on buying their X1.. they then still spend MORE on games then PS4 owners do..


The 360 sales will not translate to the Xbox One. All lot of third party gamer whom high sales came from went back to the PS brand where they were previously before the 360 era. They tend to stick to whichever console has the most buzz. They mostly care about third party though.



TheBlackNaruto said:
Since this thread is STILL going strong I see I will just say what I said again. It is better to just wait and see how this plays out because NONE OF US have enough information on this service to make an accurate judgement on it. We have NO idea how this will all work out. So until then how about we just chill and see how things plays out


What do you mean we have no idea? The service is up and running and those of us in the preview program have access to it.   We know the basic of how EA Access works. What we don't know is how many games it will get eventually.. Just the promise of more titles.   We don't know how quickly the new versions of the Sports game will hit EA Access..  My guess 6 months or more out..   But anyway..     We have a good amount of info on the service.. So I am confused by your statement.



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NiKKoM said:
TheBlackNaruto said:
Since this thread is STILL going strong I see I will just say what I said again. It is better to just wait and see how this plays out because NONE OF US have enough information on this service to make an accurate judgement on it. We have NO idea how this will all work out. So until then how about we just chill and see how things plays out

Were is the fun in that? Next month we're gonna bash the PS5 and the XboxUnlimited


LOL from what I am seeing you have a good point and more than likely are correct lol. Because I can't see any real logical reason for all the back and forth when NO ONE even knows how this will work. Heck $30 a year for an ENTIRE backlog is SUPER cheap and that would mean MS/EA would be coming out of some money to make this happen so where will they make up for that money? How many games a year? Are the games only available for that month or do you only get a limited amount of time with those games? Is there a set number of hours you can play a game per month or year? How big will the downloads of the game be? I can keep going and going on so many questions lol. But what is the point in thinking like that lol.....there is no fun in that!



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cpg716 said:
TheBlackNaruto said:
Since this thread is STILL going strong I see I will just say what I said again. It is better to just wait and see how this plays out because NONE OF US have enough information on this service to make an accurate judgement on it. We have NO idea how this will all work out. So until then how about we just chill and see how things plays out


What do you mean we have no idea? The service is up and running and those of us in the preview program have access to it.   We know the basic of how EA Access works. What we don't know is how many games it will get eventually.. Just the promise of more titles.   We don't know how quickly the new versions of the Sports game will hit EA Access..  My guess 6 months or more out..   But anyway..     We have a good amount of info on the service.. So I am confused by your statement.

But that is still beta stage. We still don't know the full ins and outs of this subscription service. We also don't know how long the games will be available, if play time on the games will be limited. Don't know if there is a restriction on how many games you can play a year or how many hours. MS/Ea will HAVE to come out of a nice bit money for this service so what are they going to do to make up for that money? And those are just a few questions plus the same questions you mentioned. Again there are still a lot of quiestions that are out there to be going back and forth like people in this thread and the other thread are doing. So again we should just wait and see how this all plays out.



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TheBlackNaruto said:
NiKKoM said:
TheBlackNaruto said:
Since this thread is STILL going strong I see I will just say what I said again. It is better to just wait and see how this plays out because NONE OF US have enough information on this service to make an accurate judgement on it. We have NO idea how this will all work out. So until then how about we just chill and see how things plays out

Were is the fun in that? Next month we're gonna bash the PS5 and the XboxUnlimited


LOL from what I am seeing you have a good point and more than likely are correct lol. Because I can't see any real logical reason for all the back and forth when NO ONE even knows how this will work. Heck $30 a year for an ENTIRE backlog is SUPER cheap and that would mean MS/EA would be coming out of some money to make this happen so where will they make up for that money? How many games a year? Are the games only available for that month or do you only get a limited amount of time with those games? Is there a set number of hours you can play a game per month or year? How big will the downloads of the game be? I can keep going and going on so many questions lol. But what is the point in thinking like that lol.....there is no fun in that!

Actually, most of your questions already have an answer, and also many XBox owners already started using it, so they know how it works.

EA already said that Vault games never get deleted, and new games will be added at a set schedule. All Vault games work same as PS+ games, you download them to your console and play them as much as you like as long as you subscribe. Downloads will be as big as the game is big, what kind of question is that?

Subscribers will have access to new games a week in advance, and the access will be on game-to-game basis. So, Dragon Age for two hours, sports games will have some mides unlocked etc. This is also nothing new. EA has Early access to sports games for many years now. Only by now those were $20 just for Madden, FIFA and NHL. Now it's $30 for an entire year and many more games ..... And those older games from previous paragraph...

See, no need for questions, many answers are out already. 

And yet people still defend $50 PS+ and at the same time bash this service. They are both the same, and are both a great value. According to all, except Sony and their appologists. 

 

I am very upset at Sony right now. Until they issued that crap PR statement, I was just sad that MS got the deal and I got left out. But upon finding out that Sony flat out refused to offer it's customers a service being provided by the 3rd party, I was irritated beyond belief. There are dozens of apps on my PS4, and I already subscribe to some like Crunchyroll and MLB. All of a sudden, this app gets blocked, and even ridiculed.

And I hoped everybody would be upset. But then people en masse start defending Sony for being a "good guy"? I was completely shocked. 

I better leave it at this, and abandon this thread. Surely Road Not Taken is a better deal than Battlefield or Madden. Or even Peggle...



Kratos said:
Yeah I dont think PlayStation has any need for EA access PS+ offers enough as it is. I already have a huge backlog on my PS3 because of PS+

Great! As addition to this post I want to say that I think that Sony should stop allowing EA games on the PS marketplace at all since they cost also money as addition to a PS+ membership. I mean, who are they at EA to take 30 bucks for a game on the marketplace if you want to buy one of the games which you could also get with this subscription. 

I also think Sony should stop the F2P and MMO model on PS4. It's not a good value to pay like 15 bucks per month for FFIV or 30 bucks for some gold in a F2P game when PS+ costs only 5 bucks a month...

I think everything which is not part of PS+ should be not accepted because it's not the same value!

Btw how much does it cost to stream games over Sony's Playstation Now service? Ahh yeah, 5 bucks for 4 hours...



Wow, this thread got so many comments! Even more than the thread about the actual announcement of the service. :O



    

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S.T.A.G.E. said:


The 360 sales will not translate to the Xbox One. All lot of third party gamer whom high sales came from went back to the PS brand where they were previously before the 360 era. They tend to stick to whichever console has the most buzz. They mostly care about third party though.

You pulled this info from what source and census?



Goatseye said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
 


The 360 sales will not translate to the Xbox One. All lot of third party gamer whom high sales came from went back to the PS brand where they were previously before the 360 era. They tend to stick to whichever console has the most buzz. They mostly care about third party though.

You pulled this info from what source and census?


I took the exact numbers from VGChartz but I already knew. It started with Nintendo and Sony got it and built upon it and then MS took a portion of that. Sony is taking it back. Sony lost about 70+ million gamers post PS2 and the Xbox 360 gained about 50+ million (almost sixty) of those and the other twenty million went to the Wii.

Someone else was talking to me about it and I literally laid it out for them. Sony increased the size of the industry twice and then Nintendo did, but most of those gamers didnt stick around. MS didnt add to the industry but rather took from the same crowd Sony had.