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adriane23 on 31 July 2014
S.T.A.G.E. said:
adriane23 said:
If they include their yearly sports games a soon as they release (or even a month later), this will be an amazing service.

EA will probably fuck this up though.

It will be the games from the year before, which makes no sense because most sports fans want the most up to date model. If EA hadn't started the annualized game model this would not have been a problem. Any competitive gamer wants the most up to date model day one or at least close to it.

Welp, fuck this then.



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walsufnir on 31 July 2014
adriane23 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
adriane23 said:
If they include their yearly sports games a soon as they release (or even a month later), this will be an amazing service.

EA will probably fuck this up though.

It will be the games from the year before, which makes no sense because most sports fans want the most up to date model. If EA hadn't started the annualized game model this would not have been a problem. Any competitive gamer wants the most up to date model day one or at least close to it.

Welp, fuck this then.


EA publishes way more than just sports games?



Spade on 31 July 2014
S.T.A.G.E. said:
VanceIX said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:


EA and MS almost stood in the way of that.

Not really. You could still buy and sell your discs, you would just have to deregister them from your account. I personally think it was a gread idea that was poorly presented to the public. It would allow you to have your entire game library available without needing the disc, but at the same time giving the ability to sell discs. It would have been the bridge between the ownership issue with digital content.


Yeah, thanks to Sony you can buy used.  End of story. :)

Do you ever get tired of saying the same thing ad nauseam? 



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S.T.A.G.E. on 01 August 2014
Slade6alpha said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
VanceIX said:

Not really. You could still buy and sell your discs, you would just have to deregister them from your account. I personally think it was a gread idea that was poorly presented to the public. It would allow you to have your entire game library available without needing the disc, but at the same time giving the ability to sell discs. It would have been the bridge between the ownership issue with digital content.


Yeah, thanks to Sony you can buy used.  End of story. :)

Do you ever get tired of saying the same thing ad nauseam? 

Look at what he wrote. I gave the proper response. What do you want me to do, lie to him?



Machiavellian on 02 August 2014
prayformojo said:

Netflix doesn't bother me because most of the movies on there are movies I wouldn't buy. As far as everything else? It's a scam. Do you honestly think these companies haven't hired mathematicians to figure all this out ahead of time? The majorty of people don't spend $120.00 a year on music. Yet, they think it's totally acceptable to subscribe to Spotify because...omg, only $9.99 a month? 

I am not ignorant enough to fall for something like that. If I were ever to do something like this, I'd crunch the numbers first and figure out if it's cheaper in the long run. And even if it was, I would still take pause because I actually, you know, want to be able to see, hold and OWN things I pay for. With music and movies, it's about quality (Blu-Ray looks and sounds better, CD's are well over 1,000 KB which murders legal downloads and streaming services), stability (streaming doesn't always work when you need it to), they are collectable and last but certainly not least, they're resaleable should you need to do so.

If you want to over pay for virtual goods which are inferior, never truely yours and have the shelf life of an open container of milk, then so be it. But not everyone shares that desire. When the servers go down, I'll have my game. You won't have yours. 

Buy cheap, buy twice?

Interesting that you brought up the music subscription service.  One of the things I have found with having a music sub is that I actually download or stream way more music then if I was actually purchasing it.  Co-wokers will be listening to a song or talk about an artish and because I have a music sub, I just stream the album, song or listen to various music from that artish which I would never do if I had to purchase the music.  If I were to meaure how much music I have download or listened to in a year compared to how much music I actually bought, it would be way over the sub price.

I believe the same would have for subs for games.  There are plenty of games most gamers would not play if they had to purchase it even if it was cheap, used and discounted.  If the game come under your sub, the chance you would play it is probably a lot higher.  When friends say this was a good game and you get to play it because its part of the sub gives you more incentive to try it out.

My belief is that subs definitely have their place and value and if the price is right, there is nothing wrong with it.  I am sure a lot of PS+ users have played many games they would never have purchased but it became avaliable on Plus so you downloaded it and played it then found out you actually liked it more then you thought.



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Machiavellian on 02 August 2014
S.T.A.G.E. said:
VanceIX said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

 

I actually have a PS4 and not an Xbox One, but if you followed the news then you would realize that discs could still be sold. You could even share games with friends through a family sharing service.

Some parts I didn't agree with, like internet checks and mandatory Kinect, which pushed me to go PlayStation instead of Xbox, but the used game policy was not one of them. To each his own though.


No...not at all. You have it wrong. MS was going to pay wall used games. You could not borrow your friends games nor buy them used freely. If you wanted to play a friends game you have to go to their house. The sharing was implemented so you could share with anyone in the house. This was MS idea of paying people back for paywalling used games when they know gamers today are mostly dependent on it. If this was a mistake, Gamestops stock price would've never dropped when MS was called out about it. MS never revealed this themselves largely to the media. One journalist spoke to an MS employee and he admitted all fo the facts and the internet blew up some time after MS revealed the Xbox One to a less than mild reaction because of its lack of focus on games.  Even  before  that Microsoft never said a word to anyone about the DRM until the Adam Orth fiasco about always online. MS fired Adam Orth and disassociated themselves from him to save face for the sake of PR when he was arguing with the fans about DRM. 

Really Stage you need to get your information straight and stop guessing.  Pretty much eveything you just stated is incorrect.  First and formost if you went to a friend house, you could play any game you have in your collection on their console and they could also play those games as well. If you added your friend to your Friends and Family then they can play any game in your collection regardless if they are on your console or theirs.  If you wanted to trade your games, then you can trade or sell the game.  Ms took nothing from trades or sells.  MS stated that their games would all be sellable and tradeable, for 3rd party publishers and developers they cold op in or out.

MS fired Adam Orth because he insulted gamers as a representive of MS.  Even if Adam said nothing about Always online he would have got fired because what he did became something people associated with MS as a company not Adam Orth just another employee.  People get fired for stuff like that all the time.  If you hold a top manager position in a company they insult your consumers and install base you better believe you can be fired for it.  Anyway thats a totally different topic

Here is a link to IGN when they posted pretty much all this detail besides the Adam Orth stuff.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/06/06/microsoft-details-xbox-one-used-games-always-online



MB1025 on 02 August 2014
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Slade6alpha said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
VanceIX said:

Not really. You could still buy and sell your discs, you would just have to deregister them from your account. I personally think it was a gread idea that was poorly presented to the public. It would allow you to have your entire game library available without needing the disc, but at the same time giving the ability to sell discs. It would have been the bridge between the ownership issue with digital content.


Yeah, thanks to Sony you can buy used.  End of story. :)

Do you ever get tired of saying the same thing ad nauseam? 

Look at what he wrote. I gave the proper response. What do you want me to do, lie to him?


You could have always traded and sold your used games. The only difference would have been it only being done at retailers. They were cutting out the mom and pop's and pawn shops because they couldn't regulate those so everyone could still make money.