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VanceIX on 29 July 2014
Munkeh111 said:

Do you notice what's missing from those screenshots? People. Anytime you look at something with animations in Skyrim, any immersion gained from the mods is completely gone. I know that you can get borderline better lighting, textures etc on PC, I know I can because I spent 3x the amount that I did on my PS4, but it's about the overall package and that includes art design and (very importantly for me) animations

If you're talking directly about Uncharted 4, compare the reveal trailers for U2, U3 and the Last of Us to the actual released games. There ain't much difference

But anyway, it's very simple. There were some very impressive games graphically on PS3 and 360, now we have 6-7 year newer technology, games are going to look a lot better.

So far, it's working. Shadowfall looks incredible and inFamous Second Son the same. Star Citizen probably looks slightly better, but it's about 2 1/2 years away from actual release. In terms of graphics, Drive Club is what I'm looking to blow me away this winter and AC Unity amazing too, even if it's borlerline better on PC (Ubi are crap at PC releases). Destiny has already been spoken about....

There are some amazing people mods as well, but like I said, Skyrim is almost three years old, not everything is perfect. The simple fact that people managed to make landscapes that are pretty much next-gen shows the prowess of PC.

And if you honestly expect Drake to look like that during actual gameplay sequences, I would be prepared to be disappointed. There is a big difference between rendering a cutscene and rendering gameplay. 

And I never said that PS4/One look bad, they look great. It's just that PCs will easily and consistently outperform them in a year or two once games like Elder Scrolls VI, Fallout 4, Witcher 3, Star Citizen, GTA V mods, etc. come out. The difference between consoles and PC has never been greater in a generation, and I expect that to start showing once more next-gen PC development starts.



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PullusPardus on 29 July 2014
AnthonyW86 said:
PullusPardus said:


the PS4 and Xbox 1 are nowhere near the 7xx / 7xxx series those are high end PC GPUs.

I'm talking about AMD hd7xxx cards here to be clear, otherwise that explains why you posted the video, you didn't do any reading. Ps4's gpu is a customized version of the HD7870, with two compute units turned off and a slightly lower clock speed. The result is a gpu that's actually a marginally faster than a HD 7850. The Xbox One is pretty much identical to an HD 7770.


AMD Radeon 7xxx cards are high end PC GPUs, no the PS4 is not a costume made one, otherwise it would cost 800 at least.



PattonFiend on 29 July 2014

Great video...

Makes a lot of sense because it's true.



Viper1 on 29 July 2014

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Let's keep a rein on those quotes trees, shall we? Especially those with massive scroll inducing charts.



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VanceIX on 29 July 2014
CGI-Quality said:
VanceIX said:
CGI-Quality said:

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The problem is, Drake's Uncharted 4 model isn't close to what it will look like in-game. A big difference between a pre-release cutscene and actual gameplay. 

PC has been doing next-gen visuals since Syrim came out with mods almost three years ago, and it will only get better and better. Imagine what the next Elder Scrolls game would look like with mods on PC? Much better than anything the current consoles have to offer, almost guaranteed.

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@ Bold: No way to know that for sure (especially when saying: "isn't close"). Nothing to base that on. We've yet to see a truly next generation game from Naughty Dog on PS4 (no, TLOU:R doesn't count).

As for Skyrim mods, I was once impressed, but these days, not so much (probably because I design games for a living now and dibble-dabble much more with computer generated stuff, espcially character models, something Skyrim falls short on.....even with mods).

But remember, Skyrim is almost three years old, and still matched up in visual fidelity to many games (not all aspects, but textures, meshes, and lighting are very well done in some mods).

And yes, there is nothing to base it on, but there is nothing to base on it actually being that good looking either. Without any gameplay footage, no one can truly say one way or another how good it will look.

My point is that in a year or two, PC will have games that are simply much more powerful visually than console. Doesn't mean that console won't look good either.



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Puppyroach on 29 July 2014

Ofcourse PS4 and X1 are underpowered compared to PC. The obsession with PC has always fascinated me, it is an entirely different market and I care about consoles, not PCs.



gravyplane on 29 July 2014

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gravyplane on 29 July 2014

LOL at saying ps4 doesn;t have a 7850..it does....the system is in the wold and it's hardware is well known. 800 dollars? You are making a fool of yourself. A radeon 78 series is below 200.

 

 

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AnthonyW86 on 29 July 2014
PullusPardus said:
AnthonyW86 said:
PullusPardus said:


the PS4 and Xbox 1 are nowhere near the 7xx / 7xxx series those are high end PC GPUs.

I'm talking about AMD hd7xxx cards here to be clear, otherwise that explains why you posted the video, you didn't do any reading. Ps4's gpu is a customized version of the HD7870, with two compute units turned off and a slightly lower clock speed. The result is a gpu that's actually a marginally faster than a HD 7850. The Xbox One is pretty much identical to an HD 7770.


AMD Radeon 7xxx cards are high end PC GPUs, no the PS4 is not a costume made one, otherwise it would cost 800 at least.

Seriously if you don't now what you are talking about don't open these kind of threads, an HD7850 is an mid-end card costing just over $100 these days:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_4_technical_specifications

'' It is a customized version of AMD's 7870 GPU, with 2 CUs disabled.''



torok on 29 July 2014
CGI-Quality said:

I must stop you here, my friend. On PC, Last Light continues to trounce anything technically (technically - Crysis 3 is still the most demanding game), and for me, it is still the best looking game on the PC platform. Much of what 4A achieved with is unmatched by Cry3, especially with textures (as one preview put it: "the amount of tech the game throws at your PC is astounding").

In regards to ShadowFall, I think it topped Crysis 3 on PC, while it fell short of Last Light.


Well, I can't say I wouldn't agree with that order too. I was really impressed by these games from a technical standpoint. For me, the most impressive part is that while Crysis 3 and KZ were developed in well-equiped with huge budgets and all the necessary equipments and conditions, 4A had to develop Metro with limited resources and terrible work conditions. Hats-off for them and I'm buying the Redux version of their games day 1 just to show some support with such a hard working studio.



Bet with jetforcejiminy: PS4 will pass the Wii lifetime numbers.