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So Nintendo needs to be ahead

Wii U/XOne 18 12.95%
 
Wii U/PS4 46 33.09%
 
Wii U/PC 14 10.07%
 
Wii U/3DS 54 38.85%
 
Wii U/Vita 4 2.88%
 
Total:136
Danman27 on 18 July 2014

I'm not sure what you're talking about. Comparing two random years mean nothing.



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Areym on 18 July 2014
FromDK said:
chapset said:
No it did better when Sony was, look at the ps1-ps2 era vs the gimmick era of the wii


If ps2 did't have "gimmick's" they would never had sold +80 mill..

Singstar.. eyetoy.. buzz and the plastic guitar made the ps2 shine..

So in fact.. it was 6 gen. h´that was the "gimmick Gen"

(and motion is in everythin now.. thats not a gimmick.. thats a revolution.. :)

Oh clearly, that's why Kinect got dropped like a bad habit. Motion is really taking over and providing such rich, innovative content.

Yep.



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Pavolink on 18 July 2014
Raven316 said:
Op this thread is so flawed. With your logic on sales then nes/snes era was worse than the ps1/ps2 era. Whomp whomp

And how is it better? Didn't PS1 expand the VG industry?



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Pavolink on 18 July 2014
CGI-Quality said:
Pavolink said:
Raven316 said:
Op this thread is so flawed. With your logic on sales then nes/snes era was worse than the ps1/ps2 era. Whomp whomp

And how is it better? Didn't PS1 expand the VG industry?

I would say it did. In that same breath, do you believe the Wii did this?

Of course. There were a lot of new faces willing to expend money in videogames. Unfortunately, Nintendo left to give them whaetever they wanted and changed for a 360/Ps3 or tablets/smartphones.



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IkePoR on 18 July 2014
sabastian said:
As long as Sony continues to release great hardware and keeps taking chances on different new IP's I could care less what Nintendo does.

How much less, exactly, could you care?



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Pavolink on 18 July 2014
CGI-Quality said:
Pavolink said:
CGI-Quality said:

I would say it did. In that same breath, do you believe the Wii did this?

Of course. There were a lot of new faces willing to expend money in videogames. Unfortunately, Nintendo left to give them whaetever they wanted and changed for a 360/Ps3 or tablets/smartphones.

That is why I disagree that it did. The folks who bought PlayStation systems returned for the follow-up. The WiiU hasn't seen similar treatment to the PS2.

The same folk that didn't bought a PS3 before Sony gave them what they wanted and prefer a 360 or a Wii meanwhile.

People is not going to buy a console for loyal (except few). People is going to play when they have games they like.



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DKCTF didn't move consoles

Prediction: No Zelda HD for Wii U, quietly moved to the succesor

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prayformojo on 18 July 2014
chapset said:
No it did better when Sony was, look at the ps1-ps2 era vs the gimmick era of the wii


Look at the NES/SNES era vs. the "mainstream dude bro" era of the PS1-PS2. So much more innovation.



Pavolink on 18 July 2014
CGI-Quality said:
Pavolink said:
CGI-Quality said:

That is why I disagree that it did. The folks who bought PlayStation systems returned for the follow-up. The WiiU hasn't seen similar treatment to the PS2.

The same folk that didn't bought a PS3 before Sony gave them what they wanted and prefer a 360 or a Wii meanwhile.

People is not going to buy a console for loyal (except few). People is going to play when they have games they like.

Right, PS2 people didn't buy PS3's because Sony mucked up. This still doesn't explain your OP. To be frank, it's quite flawed, for the various reasons already discussed.

The industry doesn't "need" Nintendo to be winning. In fact, it doesn't really need any specific victor, so long as each competitor is healthy.

And that's exactly what is is posted in the OP. When Nintendo was the leader everyone was healthy.



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VanceIX on 18 July 2014
Pavolink said:
VanceIX said:
The Wii wasn't really a leader among the core audience. At least half, if not more, sales came from the casual audience, which is very fickle, and it showed when all of them jumped ship half way through the generation for iPhone and Android.

It was the leader and numbers proves it, please leave arbitrary measurements out.

Those arbitrary measurements are the reason Nintendo is doing so bad right now. They failed to see that their console was built with casuals, who had long abandoned the platform, and thus made the mistake of marketing the Wii U as a casual console.

Numbers don't show everything, not even close.



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Pavolink on 18 July 2014
VanceIX said:
Pavolink said:
VanceIX said:
The Wii wasn't really a leader among the core audience. At least half, if not more, sales came from the casual audience, which is very fickle, and it showed when all of them jumped ship half way through the generation for iPhone and Android.

It was the leader and numbers proves it, please leave arbitrary measurements out.

Those arbitrary measurements are the reason Nintendo is doing so bad right now. They failed to see that their console was built with casuals, who had long abandoned the platform, and thus made the mistake of marketing the Wii U as a casual console.

Numbers don't show everything, not even close.

Not even close. Wii U is not a casual console, but a failed casual console. Instead of going full with the tablet controller they went with something that is not a traditional controller and neither a tablet.

Also, there's nothing for those casuals to play that they haven't played before on Wii. Unlike the hardcore market who can eat the same game over and over but with just different name or characters, they demand new experiences, like Just Dance, Kinect Sports, Mario Kart Wii (using motion), Wii Fit or Wii Sports or the revival of classics like 2D Marios (NSMBWii)

Wii Play on the other hand failed to reach those heighs because is basically a Mario Party with Miis.



Proud to be the first cool Nintendo fan ever

Number ONE Zelda fan in the Universe

DKCTF didn't move consoles

Prediction: No Zelda HD for Wii U, quietly moved to the succesor

Predictions for Nintendo NX and Mobile