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jnemesh said:

This myth that keeps getting perpetuated that a single game will "turn the tide" for the Xbox is getting tiresome. If Titanfall couldn't turn things around, nor a $100 less expensive model without Kinect, nor bundles at ridiculous prices with multiple free games, what makes you think Halo 5 or indeed ANY game will magically make people consider buying one? This "war" is over, Microsoft lost. 


honey u dont get it right

its never a single move or thing, that can turn the tides

its the sum of all actions

 

less negativ pr  + new cheaper skus + bundels + improved and more software /killer apps + high value exclusive franchise

 

a war is not over until u give up

a "blitzkrieg" is very very rare.  why do so many gamers think thats what happening here with the xbox one vs ps4? gamers must be the smartest guys in the world...



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prinz_valium said:
jnemesh said:

This myth that keeps getting perpetuated that a single game will "turn the tide" for the Xbox is getting tiresome. If Titanfall couldn't turn things around, nor a $100 less expensive model without Kinect, nor bundles at ridiculous prices with multiple free games, what makes you think Halo 5 or indeed ANY game will magically make people consider buying one? This "war" is over, Microsoft lost. 


honey u dont get it right

its never a single move or thing, that can turn the tides

its the sum of all actions

 

less negativ pr  + new cheaper skus + bundels + improved and more software /killer apps + high value exclusive franchise

 

a war is not over until u give up

a "blitzkrieg" is very very rare.  why do so many gamers think thats what happening here with the xbox one vs ps4? gamers must be the smartest guys in the world...

Sum of it all, yes it is.

Strong launch strong continuted sales best hardware great price great value great exclusives great 3rd party many advantages that sum up, see how none of it is on X1s side?  X1 will never best PS4 if for it lack most if not all advantages it would need need to sum up together and achieve that.



BeElite said:
prinz_valium said:
jnemesh said:

This myth that keeps getting perpetuated that a single game will "turn the tide" for the Xbox is getting tiresome. If Titanfall couldn't turn things around, nor a $100 less expensive model without Kinect, nor bundles at ridiculous prices with multiple free games, what makes you think Halo 5 or indeed ANY game will magically make people consider buying one? This "war" is over, Microsoft lost. 


honey u dont get it right

its never a single move or thing, that can turn the tides

its the sum of all actions

 

less negativ pr  + new cheaper skus + bundels + improved and more software /killer apps + high value exclusive franchise

 

a war is not over until u give up

a "blitzkrieg" is very very rare.  why do so many gamers think thats what happening here with the xbox one vs ps4? gamers must be the smartest guys in the world...

Sum of it all, yes it is.

Strong launch strong continuted sales best hardware great price great value great exclusives great 3rd party many advantages that sum up, see how none of it is on X1s side?  X1 will never best PS4 if for it lack most if not all advantages it would need need to sum up together and achieve that.

wow

thats the only point u got right. (and the launch thing, if u change the word strong to stronger)

ps4 got the best hardware. that cant be change. anything else could favour xbox, too

nice spin



prinz_valium said:

wow

thats the only point u got right. (and the launch thing, if u change the word strong to stronger)

ps4 got the best hardware. that cant be change. anything else could favour xbox, too

nice spin


Nice wishfull thinking nothing more.

PS4 will get the better exclusives, that a given and 3rd parties will be better that just a fact of superior hardware.  Unelss X1 dropes to half price of PS4, it will never be a better value.

X1 lacks every single advantage 360 had, and even with all of them it eventulaly lost.  



BeElite said:
prinz_valium said:

wow

thats the only point u got right. (and the launch thing, if u change the word strong to stronger)

ps4 got the best hardware. that cant be change. anything else could favour xbox, too

nice spin


Nice wishfull thinking nothing more.

PS4 will get the better exclusives, that a given and 3rd parties will be better that just a fact of superior hardware.  Unelss X1 dropes to half price of PS4, it will never be a better value.

X1 lacks every single advantage 360 had, and even with all of them it eventulaly lost.  


how is thats a given?

like killzone shadowfall?

like delayed driveclub?

 

where is the "better" exclusives?

thats totally subjectiv, what ever u do like the most...

more exclusives? yoshida told, we have to expect less AAA exclusives from them

bigger exclusives? biggest console exclusive is still halo. only gran turismo is in the same league

 

so what exaclty is ur given better exclusives?

 

 

on the second: i thouhgt u talk about third party support and third party games in general. not the (slightly) better visuals for third party games. and thats still the point of best hardware for ps4



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I think you forget that essentially every major Halo title comes with a limited edition console. People seem to be under impression that Destiny bundles will sell like hotcakes, but seem to forget the Halo LE bundles, and how quick THOSE fly off. Never mind the legendary editions of the game etc. Imo provided the standard # of bundles they do, it should do 200-250k in the launch week alone, with the software effect spread over the following weeks.

But bit pointless making this prediction 15 months in advance, so much shit in between.



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NotStan said:
I think you forget that essentially every major Halo title comes with a limited edition console. People seem to be under impression that Destiny bundles will sell like hotcakes, but seem to forget the Halo LE bundles, and how quick THOSE fly off. Never mind the legendary editions of the game etc. Imo provided the standard # of bundles they do, it should do 200-250k in the launch week alone, with the software effect spread over the following weeks.

But bit pointless making this prediction 15 months in advance, so much shit in between.


Do you know something everyone else doesn't?  There has been no announcement of a "special edition" XB1.  Why?  Because MS overproduced the base model.  That's why there was no "Titanfall Edition" XB1, and that is why they won't make a Halo XB1...they are still sitting on too many unsold base models.



Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:
Depends on when other games are released

This. If Sony releases Uncharted 4 in the same month as Halo 5, it could be very close.



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no chance I'd say, Halo > * in terms of popularity, that will sell machines and a ton of them.



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Uncharted is not exactly in the same league than Halo. So I doubt it.
Now I see your point, PS4 is likely to be already higher than the Xbox One. So a little boost from Uncharted will still have it on top of Xbox One with a huge boost from Halo... Still doubting anyway :)