realistically its everyones problem, because when MS get away with something, Sony sooner or later do it too.

many people thought paying for online features was nonsense

a few years later...

now people think there is no future in cloud computing for gaming

a few years from now...

disclaimer : xbox is still wrong to openly discuss this topic as it shouldn't be more than a gimmick this gen - basically they are not being stealthy enough and should go back to the strategy they had with the 360 that sony applied this gen

And PS now is brought up, as expected. Nevermind the fact it's only PS3 games. Or that you can still buy a physical copy of those same games if you want to, thus making it entirely optional. Or that you don't need to buy a console to play the games.

umm ps now is to play ps3,2,1 games on ps4(and other stuff)

Microsofts cloud is to provide compute power to xbox one native games, which means if games require cloud even for their single player (ala sunset overdrive) then it is always online

Well ps4's lead system architect is critical of cloud for processing:

http://www.nowgamer.com/news/2009150/ps4s_mark_cerny_critical_of_cloud_computing.html

but once they do/if they do, we will be equally critical of them.
But they're not...
And they also originally didn't intend to have an always online situation.

I'd like to know how is it that PS3s are going to locally run PS4 games

please explain

Because that's what PSnow games are running on. PS3s.

And PSPlus was never supposed to be required to play multiplayer, yet here we are :).

Of course they will start to launch PS4 games on PS Now in the coming years. In a couple of years, they will probably even try too launch a AA or AAA title without releasing it to retail. It is the smart business descision to make and Sony will definitely make it.

pbroy said: Well I'm glad Sony doesn't require always on for PS Now for their Cloud solution. Ohhh wait... You need to be always online to read the Cloud. Silly me, but it's ok if Sony does it. Boooo M$ always online Cloud.

Only diference is that sony requires it only for ps now. You can still buy any game fisicaly and have to bother. But MS is planing on doing it for everithing, even if the  game does not require an online feture wich makes your statement baseless.

I find it ironic how people who are online all day complain about something being online all the time.

guys can someone help i cant seem to play wow offline for some reason?