The graphics looks great, period. But when people say "I have NEVER seen something like U4, the game that will be out a year (or so) from now and that we dont have a gameplay footage" i have to call this out

Infamous Second Son: looks gorgeus, in pics, in motion, in everything. But when we take a closer look we see low-quiality reflections (in details), a not-that-good draw distance (in details again) as if they where using tricks to push it. (leaving aside the fps department) I will search for that image later

I DONT want to start a dick measurement between ps4 and PC. We need to acknowledge that these doesnt have "graphics", they have hardware that push graphics and it depends on each developer to make graphics great, not that great or average. Of course PC will always have more potential for this, as there is a new GPU every year or less but devs dont aim for that small porcentage of gamers

With that said, we shall only talk about how good it really looks when they´re out, whether its "in-engine" or "in-game" footage. 

this is not gameplay thread

It really doesnt matter. PS4 has yet to show off what it can do game play wise. Anyone can show off nice CG footage, Square-Enix is the prime example of this. When Ps4 can do something like the CG they show,with actual gameplay, then I'll jump into the ''ps4 graphics are on another level!'' camp :P

We won't see that for a few years though I'm afraid as these consoles usually dont hit their strike till their 2nd-3rd year

CG? wtf?

For a console, the games look great but it can't compete with PC's.

It really doesnt matter. PS4 has yet to show off what it can do game play wise. Anyone can show off nice CG footage, Square-Enix is the prime example of this. When Ps4 can do something like the CG they show,with actual gameplay, then I'll jump into the ''ps4 graphics are on another level!'' camp :P

We won't see that for a few years though I'm afraid as these consoles usually dont hit their strike till their 2nd-3rd year