100% agree with you. If devs could choose of course they would like the games to cost as little as snes times, but they know that they need to offer what their public wants and that costs money and a lot so they need sells. I would love to have releases (non-indies) costing 15-20 30-40 and 60. The problem to me is "bad" games costing the same as AAA new. When a game cost 10M sell for the same as the one costing 250M.

True most games won't break even if they don't hit 500k.  Yet even a niche title like Dark Souls reached it easily. If you know what you're doing, take pride in making something people will love, you won't reach CoD numbers but you will gain a dedicated audience.

When greed takes over and devs/publishers want "to reach a wider audience" and make games something they aren't, and turn everything into clones of the best selling games, that's when budgets get out of control and they end up killing themselves.

Triple A titles are usually the games that need that 500k to break even; this isn't the case when you budget, something most game companies seem to have forgotten how to do.

You can push boundaries without dumping truckloads of money into games.  It's called creativity - something we're supposed to allow game makers to lack just because they want to make a game.  You can make an extremely beautiful, extremely competent and innovative game without guaranteeing being in the red.

If a game sells 2M it can't be said it is niche... niche are games that sell around 100k (and some of them are budgeted with this in mind).

So you think square enix invested so much money in the game and needed 5M sells to break even just out of greed? Maybe they could have just made their expectatives too high? And which games does it clone?

Have you seen the Tomb Raider multiplayer that no one asked for?  

I don't bother with MP unless there is a minimun number of plays I need to get a platinum (and I hate every second of it)... I'm playing the MP of Saint Seiya Brave soldiers... it's ridicule, my player moves 0,5s after my input.

Right, well, the MP for TR drove up the costs quite a bit and it plays like Gears of War.

Uncanny...

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=187797&page=1

THAT often!?!  i've never seen it ever.   i don't think it has ever happened.

I see... well GoW MP is regarded as good... but yes just copying it is stupid... and for me the only value I see is local Co-op (or even LAN or global Co-Op to play against people from far), I don't like competitive MP... after I finish a MP I decide to plat if I liked the game and isn't much hasle or go to the next game (rare cases I play MP for Plat, just if it is simple and fast).

To me they could save the money on the MP of all games, but I understand they put that to try and make the game more "valuable" and hold a little the second hand market... and I know a lot of people like MP, just not sure if there was a deman for it in TR, but since UC and TLOU have MP and they are said to be good I don't see much problem on it... but yes to put to much money on it is silly.

So I'm the topic of talk for the creation of the topic and now this one??

I don't care about the hate people put on TLOUR, I just think it is stupid to hate the game on the reasons people give... And I post the new for people to discuss, I don't mind puting topics against sony and defending if I disagree with the article or just puting the reason I agree with it... Of course I preffer to talk about the positive aspects of it.