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Zero999 said:
DonFerrari said:
Zero999 said:
DonFerrari said:
Zero999 saying the game would sell more if "any arbitrary conditions happens" is funny since he never predict anything right by a couple millions margin. So now I rest safe that sony made the best choice.

I didn't know basic knowledge is now "arbitrary conditions". also saying that I "never predict anything right by a couple millions margin" is a lie AND trying to derail the thread.


You say your assumptions are basic knowledge, yet no one agrees with you... and I'm certain of seeing several threads of yours with WiiU to sell 15M in one FY and other similar predicitions, how is that a lie? And you are accusing me of derailing my own thread just by saying that you reasoning something against the game is a guarantee that the game will do well? How come?

one year being too soon isn't MY assumption, it's common sense/basic knowledge.

how is this a lie "he never predict anything right by a couple millions margin."? simple, it's not true and you know that while saying it. it had the objective to provoke me and isn't related to the thread, thus the derail.

It's a Game of the Year Edition with updates to compliment the PS4, and it's coming out a year after the original. I think I saw someone earlier in the thread say that people's beef with the game is that it's called "Remastered" instead of "Game of the Year". It's only "Remastered" because it's on the PS4, but other than that, for all intents and purposes, it is "TLOU: GOTY Edition". Do you try this hard to undermine any other GOTY edition of a game? Skyrim? Borderlands? LBP? Batman? Gears 2? All those games have re-releases, a year after the original came out, packed with all the DLC, and sold at a reduced price from standard MSRP. It happens pretty much every year with the biggest games from the prior year. But now a year is too soon...and it being too soon is common knowledge?

I guess instead of:

 

Those respective studios should have had completely new games done, because to release such things only a year after the original? It's common knowledge that it's "too soon" 



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BMaker11 said:
Zero999 said:

one year being too soon isn't MY assumption, it's common sense/basic knowledge.

how is this a lie "he never predict anything right by a couple millions margin."? simple, it's not true and you know that while saying it. it had the objective to provoke me and isn't related to the thread, thus the derail.

It's a Game of the Year Edition with updates to compliment the PS4, and it's coming out a year after the original. I think I saw someone earlier in the thread say that people's beef with the game is that it's called "Remastered" instead of "Game of the Year". It's only "Remastered" because it's on the PS4, but other than that, for all intents and purposes, it is "TLOU: GOTY Edition". Do you try this hard to undermine any other GOTY edition of a game? Skyrim? Borderlands? LBP? Batman? Gears 2? All those games have re-releases, a year after the original came out, packed with all the DLC, and sold at a reduced price from standard MSRP. It happens pretty much every year with the biggest games from the prior year. But now a year is too soon...and it being too soon is common knowledge?

I guess instead of:

 

Those respective studios should have had completely new games done, because to release such things only a year after the original? It's common knowledge that it's "too soon" 

You think I'm suportive of those examples?



BMaker11 said:
Zero999 said:
DonFerrari said:

You say your assumptions are basic knowledge, yet no one agrees with you... and I'm certain of seeing several threads of yours with WiiU to sell 15M in one FY and other similar predicitions, how is that a lie? And you are accusing me of derailing my own thread just by saying that you reasoning something against the game is a guarantee that the game will do well? How come?

one year being too soon isn't MY assumption, it's common sense/basic knowledge.

how is this a lie "he never predict anything right by a couple millions margin."? simple, it's not true and you know that while saying it. it had the objective to provoke me and isn't related to the thread, thus the derail.

It's a Game of the Year Edition with updates to compliment the PS4, and it's coming out a year after the original. I think I saw someone earlier in the thread say that people's beef with the game is that it's called "Remastered" instead of "Game of the Year". It's only "Remastered" because it's on the PS4, but other than that, for all intents and purposes, it is "TLOU: GOTY Edition". Do you try this hard to undermine any other GOTY edition of a game? Skyrim? Borderlands? LBP? Batman? Gears 2? All those games have re-releases, a year after the original came out, packed with all the DLC, and sold at a reduced price from standard MSRP. It happens pretty much every year with the biggest games from the prior year. But now a year is too soon...and it being too soon is common knowledge?

I guess instead of:

 

Those respective studios should have had completely new games done, because to release such things only a year after the original? It's common knowledge that it's "too soon" 


Don't forget GOTY editions don't sell 1-2M so people are less worried about them... they don't sell to much HW also.



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Just seen the screenshot of the PS4 version and DAMN... I did not see any differences.



sony isnt going to hold their lead if this is what theyre relying on. they better be careful, cuz honestly, theyre not outselling the competition by THAT much.



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Zero999 said:
BMaker11 said:

It's a Game of the Year Edition with updates to compliment the PS4, and it's coming out a year after the original. I think I saw someone earlier in the thread say that people's beef with the game is that it's called "Remastered" instead of "Game of the Year". It's only "Remastered" because it's on the PS4, but other than that, for all intents and purposes, it is "TLOU: GOTY Edition". Do you try this hard to undermine any other GOTY edition of a game? Skyrim? Borderlands? LBP? Batman? Gears 2? All those games have re-releases, a year after the original came out, packed with all the DLC, and sold at a reduced price from standard MSRP. It happens pretty much every year with the biggest games from the prior year. But now a year is too soon...and it being too soon is common knowledge?

I guess instead of:

 *Gears2GOTY*LBPGOTY*SkyrimGOTY*

Those respective studios should have had completely new games done, because to release such things only a year after the original? It's common knowledge that it's "too soon" 

You think I'm suportive of those examples?

From that reaction, I'd guess not, then. So that means you either A. don't like GOTY versions at all or B. you'd like them to come out much later than the original release. Well, non-annual franchises (sports, COD, etc) are still on 2-3 year dev cycles. So would you prefer the GOTY version to come out...when the sequel comes out, and eat into its sales? Seems foolish. And "Game of the Year" denotes, well...Game of the Year. You can't have a "Game of the Year" edition in 2016 when you came out in 2013. Some game in 2015 was GOTY.



Burek said:
Euphoria14 said:
Burek said:

Well, just to defend the haters a bit, I'm sure many Sony fans would make hundreds of hate threads if Microsoft decided to port any of their critically acclaimed 2013 X360 exclusives over to XOne this year.


Halo 4 is being ported over, as part of the MCC.

Halo 4 was not released in 2013. Two years is long enough for a remaster, 100% longer than in this case.


That's a convenient argument, so two years is the perfect timing for "remasters"?

What about games like Forza Horizon 2 that are developped for both the 360 and the xb1 at the same time, does that get a pass because it's naturally cross gen?

I honestly think the only difference is that some people want one and others want the other... while the rest would get both if they could... like any game, just ignore it if you don't like it, there is nothing foundational in a specific title, like platform policies or performance, it should not warrant that much debate, porting games to new system is a good way to add to the library and it let people who liked the old versions play them in improved form! ... and for the 50% of PS4 owners who never had a PS3, well this is their first chance to play it!

I wonder how many XB1 owners never had a 360? Then, if I had one and was a Halo fan, I would be pretty happy to finally be able to play these games with proper resolution/frame rate (Halo was originally a computer game, xbox only had a port of it in the first place).



BMaker11 said:
Zero999 said:

You think I'm suportive of those examples?

From that reaction, I'd guess not, then. So that means you either A. don't like GOTY versions at all or B. you'd like them to come out much later than the original release. Well, non-annual franchises (sports, COD, etc) are still on 2-3 year dev cycles. So would you prefer the GOTY version to come out...when the sequel comes out, and eat into its sales? Seems foolish. And "Game of the Year" denotes, well...Game of the Year. You can't have a "Game of the Year" edition in 2016 when you came out in 2013. Some game in 2015 was GOTY.

No game of the year edition, that's just a name. If a game is to be rereleased, it shouldn't be as a quick cash in.



Why are people so hung up on this? "Remaster" is nothing more than a marketing term to help sell. This is basically just a one year late cross gen port. This is nothing new. The term remaster is just used to inform ps4 owners that there will be some slight improvements but otherwise this really isn't anything more than a cross gen port for people who own a ps4 and haven't played the game yet.



Having a PS4 version also allows Sony to offer TLOU on PS+ just before the release of TLOU2.



 

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