I don't think no console never again will match the Wii. The thing sold out over a year (that's a understatement). No console ever did that pass six months. The PS4 is doing what it suppose to do, but it's no Wii.

Yes it was but why are you bringing up the PS2 so much ? PS4 is a different beast.  Is it beyond your capability to fathom PS4 selling better then the PS2 ?

Yahh it will if sony can produce enough that is, it could be like xmas 2013 X1 selling decent becsue PS4 was impossible to find.  

Show me legit PS4 productin numbers and ill tell you how much it will sale by end of 2014.

And yes it will do that in 2015 if they can produce enough, as i said competiton is weak and will add that it will be much weaker soon enough.  With enough stock PS4 will annihilate those two these holidays setting it self up for a high majority console market share in 2015 thus selling that amount.  Simply, PS4 will take so much of their sales that it will achieve that number.  

Do you think ps4 will never have a price drop?

No, im just realistic about how weak the other two are and easlity see mass market adopting a PS console as its #1 gaming choice for this gen.  

if i had official production capacity, i would.

Im not saying that load but nice try lol.

Ill say PS4 is the only one that can build massive supply and sale it of in the holiday months, no one in their right mind would stock up 10m X1 or wiiUs hoping to sale em of on a wing and a prayer.  Hell did MS restart x1 production ?

The holidays will be very interesting.  And will drive home some realities for many on here.

I think PS4 will be the lowest selling winning console since SNES (it will beat SNES of course), but even I think it will track ahead of PS3 for a good 2 years+. It will track behind PS3 when we get to the point in PS3's lifecycle that it got a trim and price cut to $299. But I do think the PS3/4 tracking will be fairly close .

I believe ps4 can do 24 a year of Sony play the right card imagine a year with a price cut,GTA 6 and a big Sony exclusivity in the same year

Cool.

But keep in mind that there are some people that won't accept that any console has ever done ANYTHING better than their console of choice. The Wii cost like $250 so that may be something to consider but if you make a thread saying "Dreamcast smells better than PS2" expect a ton of replies from people saying that the Dreamcast smelled like hot garbage. People see what they want to see.

I think it's got a really good chance of hitting 20+million sold in 2015, as the world economy is improving, there's going to be an onslaught of games and I think the PS4 will hit $300/€300/£250 sometime in 2015 (make it co-incide with the order sony please)

You guys still don't seem to have any basis for your claims. Try harder.