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Uh uh, if you say so.



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celador said:
RavenXtra said:
OttoniBastos said:
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:

MS/Sony Fans: Pissed at Bungie/Insomniac (some not all, don't deny it :|)
MS/Sony : Who gives a fuck?


Sony just lost a niche second party.MS on the other hand, lost their biggest first party....

Bungie was replaced by 343i to handle the Halo series, they lost nothing.


343i are not even close to being on the same level as Bungie, Halo 4 was the second weakest game in the series after ODST according to Metacritic, and was comfortably less well received than any of the other numbered entries.

So 343i is doomed to be worse because of one game? ODST was made by Bungie, yet we all know that they were capable of better games. Let's see Halo 5 before we make these kinds of statements.



celador said:
RavenXtra said:
OttoniBastos said:
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:

MS/Sony Fans: Pissed at Bungie/Insomniac (some not all, don't deny it :|)
MS/Sony : Who gives a fuck?


Sony just lost a niche second party.MS on the other hand, lost their biggest first party....

Bungie was replaced by 343i to handle the Halo series, they lost nothing.


343i are not even close to being on the same level as Bungie, Halo 4 was the second weakest game in the series after ODST according to Metacritic, and was comfortably less well received than any of the other numbered entries.

True, but Halo 4 sold faster than any other Halo game. 



    

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Why be mad? Just let them keep doing great games. I'm sure MS will survive :).



MoHasanie said:
celador said:
RavenXtra said:
OttoniBastos said:
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:

MS/Sony Fans: Pissed at Bungie/Insomniac (some not all, don't deny it :|)
MS/Sony : Who gives a fuck?


Sony just lost a niche second party.MS on the other hand, lost their biggest first party....

Bungie was replaced by 343i to handle the Halo series, they lost nothing.


343i are not even close to being on the same level as Bungie, Halo 4 was the second weakest game in the series after ODST according to Metacritic, and was comfortably less well received than any of the other numbered entries.

True, but Halo 4 sold faster than any other Halo game. 

Halo 4 sold better because of the name, but it stained the IP heavily, the MP playerbase abandoned it quickly. Halo 4 also came out at a time when the 360 install/active player base was MUCH bigger than when Halo 3 released, and of course Halo 1/2 came out on a system with a terrible install base but had EPIC attach rates.

Bungie is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the universe >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 343.

It would be like handing Uncharted to Platinum or Insomniac. Or handing the Mario/Zelda IPs to Philips (oops, that happened, lol).

There are god devs, and there are meh devs. The only reason Halo 4 wasn't worse than it was is because it was basically a turn-key franchise. The less they change, the better, because everything they changed to make it Halo of Duty just worked against them.

Metacritic Userscore for Halo 1, 2, 3 dominate Halo 4 completely. It fumbled the franchise.

This doesn't guarantee that Halo 5 will also be a disappointment, but .. it's likely. Halo 3 came out before the COD juggernaut came on strong. Halo 4 came out in the midst of that, sold well at first, but faded quickly (especially multiplayer). Halo 5 comes at a time with more competition than ever. BF5 or BFBC3 will almost certainly be dropping next year, Destiny will steal millions of players as it's basically 'Halo : Universe' (by the actual Halo creators and not wannabe hacks), and of course, COD will be fully cranking in the next-gen world by 2015, with AW being a big leap forward from Ghosts. Titanfall 2 with more dev time and a possible SP campaign might also be dropping in 2015. All of this might tempt 343i into wanting to emulate Halo into something its not. That's exactly what doomed Halo 4 into decline vs. previous installments growing the franchise. Chasing COD is a fool's errand, COD is COD. Halo of Duty will fail if they try that again. To make matters worse, the iconic master chief character is retired, and they have the unfortunately named 'Guardians' theme. Problem is : the characters in DESTINY by BUNGIE are called Guardians :P It will seem like a cheap fake Halo to many, a me-too washed-up franchise made by a group that desperately wants to make something they are not capable of. Or, it could be great. What are the odds of that, though?



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OttoniBastos said:
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:

MS/Sony Fans: Pissed at Bungie/Insomniac (some not all, don't deny it :|)
MS/Sony : Who gives a fuck?


Sony just lost a niche second party.MS on the other hand, lost their biggest first party....

Lmao Insomniac wasn't "niche" and still aren't "niche" to this day.



Dark_Feanor said:

As far as I can say, Sunset Overdrive is Xbox exclusive and Destiny is multiplat...

It´s not like Destiny won´´t sell anything on Xbox. In fact, it could be the biggest Xbox game of the year. The same way COD was the biggest Playstation game but the GTA years... 

Exactly. I get that COD was much more prominent on Xbox 360, but it did sell tens of millions of copies on PS3 too, not exactly a drop in the ocean :) 



JayWood2010 said:

People really do see what they want dont they? *looks at comments above*

Insomniac and Bungie alike are great studios that specific fanbases worshiped for years. You know it may do you all some good to enjoy games for being good rather than making everything a fanwar. Ill play both Destiny and Sunset Overdrive and enjoy them, fuck the petty bs.


Stop that crazy common sense thing, this is not the place for that.  In these forums, common sense is thrown out and fanboy sens is put in its place.

 

OT:  Why be mad, they probably will buy Sony's position on Destiny 2 in 2-3 years...



It is near the end of the end....

Another thing, why would anyone be mad over a Alpha, extra few days of beta time, and some dlc? I'll have fun playing this game on my Xbox like I've played all previous Bungie games on.

I'll be sure to enjoy Sunset Overdrive only on Xbox also :P



Dark_Feanor said:
OttoniBastos said:
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:

MS/Sony Fans: Pissed at Bungie/Insomniac (some not all, don't deny it :|)
MS/Sony : Who gives a fuck?


Sony just lost a niche second party.MS on the other hand, lost their biggest first party....


As far as I can say, Sunset Overdrive is Xbox exclusive and Destiny is multiplat...

It´s not like Destiny won´´t sell anything on Xbox. In fact, it could be the biggest Xbox game of the year. The same way COD was the biggest Playstation game but the GTA years... 



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