ChudStudly said:
Mummelmann said:
Regardless of the cause; there will be a decline in the home console market as well as a massive one in the handheld market and that's my whole point. The 7th gen saw 235-240 million handhelds and had three consoles ending up in the 85-100 million region in lifetime sales, that is unprecedented in console history and was the peak of the console market. Gaming has branched out and splintered into several chunks so even if the total revenue is still growing in gaming; the share going towards consoles will be shrinking a great deal.
And that is called a market contraction and people are actually arguing against the fact that there will be one, some have even claimed there will be growth. At this point, and since long ago; there is absolutely no basis for such claims but a whole lot for the opposite.
Besides; it is still to soon to say anything about MS and Sony consoles, I don't think the One will sell 90 million and I'm not so sure that the PS4 will beat the PS3 either, and if it does; it won't be by much.
The argument was; "look, there has been growth in the past generations, there is no decline". My answer is; past growth is in no way indicative of future and continued growth but there is ample data to support the opposite stance.
As for being concerned; well, neither am I for now, PC gaming has gotten a huge vitamin shot in the past 4-5 years and has actually grown and there are still studios that produce quality software for me to enjoy. What does concern me is companies like Capcom, Bioware and Dice shitting on their legacy and IP's though, and the likes of Dungeon Keeper and other classics being diluted and shredded on mobile platforms. The overall focus on glitz and glamour over actual worthwhile content and good writing and gameplay also worries me. I don't feel that gaming has changed for the better and the majority rules, which means that Angry Bird and the like are setting the bar for profitability and appeal; in turn making less studios (and lesser studios...) go for cheap and simple fare rather than living out ambitions.
All things aside though; the console market is facing a big decline and that was the main point I wanted to come across.
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You're a PC gamer and you appear to be heavily biased; of course you think consoles are dying. I hope you'll have enough room for all that crow in 2015.
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And what crow will that be? What will happen to indicate another generation of growth or at the very least; one without stagnation or decline? Also, nice work on the strawman there; market contraction = dying. The PC market also suffered a market contraction and didn't die, it's all a natural process in any market according to overall movements in various segments and clusters of segments.
Do you also think the 8th gen will show growth, or that it will remain flat and move about 235-240 million handhelds (!) and 270-280 million home consoles? I don't see you contesting the claim in a specific manner, there is no argument at all, actually. You're not telling me why I'm wrong and I'm honestly curious as to what this celestial event in 2015 will be that will bring about an astronomic sales surge for 8th generation consoles (if that is what you're talking about at all).
2015 will grow on 2014, no doubt, I think both the PS4 and One will show healthy year-over year growth, like any other console in its second year on the market and I have never claimed otherwise. I'm still claiming there will be a market contraction though, and all the data supports this claim. And; lastly, you're haven't really made any claims, you're just telling me I'm wrong because.