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fkusumot said:
kingofwale said:


You sure have a lot of patient argueing with someone who already assumes any third party games are shovelwares.



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@Kingofwhale: Well i wouldn't be so sure of that, when a game nears completion, they don't need as many resources. The final stage of development is mostly debugging and testing and tweaking and stuff. No major programming required anymore. It's very common to shift resources when a game enters the final stages of development.

And I wouldn't be surprised if that PS2 games will get canned, the PS2 is dying in Japan and that's their main source of income.

 

edit: disregard my comment about canning ps2 games. I overlooked it's near completion.



Joeron said:
@Kingofwhale: Well i wouldn't be so sure of that, when a game nears completion, they don't need as many resources. The final stage of development is mostly debugging and testing and tweaking and stuff. No major programming required anymore. It's very common to shift resources when a game enters the final stages of development.

And I wouldn't be surprised if that PS2 games will get canned, the PS2 is dying in Japan and that's their main source of income.

 But the PS3 game is due in this March. lol, they already Canned another PS3 and PS2 games, I don't think this one will too. 

 I agree that they most likely have more resources to work on those games. but I still stand by my statement that 5 DS in the span of 1 year is excessive. and mostly will lead to game that suffer from it.



Soriku (Feb 10/08): In 5 years the PS3/360 will be dead.

KH3 bet: "If KH3 comes to Wii exclusive, I will take a 1 month of sig/avatar by otheres open a thread apologize and praise you guys' brilliance." http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?start=50&id=18379
Original cast: Badonkadonkhr, sc94597 allaboutthegames885, kingofwale, Soriku, ctk495, skeezer, RDBRaptor, Mirson,

Episode 1: OOPSY!
selnor
: Too Human I even expect 3-4 mill entire life and 500,000 first day. GoW2 ( expect 7 - 9 million entire life and over 2 mill first day), Fable 2 (expect 5-6 million entire life and 1.5 mill fist day) BK3 (expect 4 - 5 mill sales entire life and 1 mill first day).. Tales/IU/TLR should get to 2 or 3 million! post id: 868878
Episode 2:
Letsdance: FFXIII (PS3+360) first week in NA = 286K
According to pre-order rate in week 13 (post id: 2902544)

Well you made your point clear, it all depends on how big Nippon Ichi actually is. Even bigger publishers have made puzzle games with just 2 or 3 devs working on it. Hey Doshin the Giant for the N64 was made by 1 single man! And it turned out to be one of those classics enjoyable games.

 

Update: Doshin came out on the 64DD (small dev team) and later ported by 1 guy to the gamecube. 



kingofwale said:
Joeron said:
@Kingofwhale: Well i wouldn't be so sure of that, when a game nears completion, they don't need as many resources. The final stage of development is mostly debugging and testing and tweaking and stuff. No major programming required anymore. It's very common to shift resources when a game enters the final stages of development.

And I wouldn't be surprised if that PS2 games will get canned, the PS2 is dying in Japan and that's their main source of income.

But the PS3 game is due in this March. lol, they already Canned another PS3 and PS2 games, I don't think this one will too.

I agree that they most likely have more resources to work on those games. but I still stand by my statement that 5 DS in the span of 1 year is excessive. and mostly will lead to game that suffer from it.


lol, you're being evasive. At least you're not resorting to being obtuse, lol. Your statements were "I smell shovelware" and "1-2 throw-away games". lol, did you know that a DS game costs half of what a PS2 game costs to develop? Do you know how many games NIS usually releases in a year? lol, you would have to know that to be able to say they need more resources to work on those games.

lol, FUD.



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i think you guys are mean, teaming up on one poor ps3 supporter. only cause he hates NIS games doesnt make him a bad person. I mean look at the shovelware that is Disgaea 3! (obviously, never played it)



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Faxanadu said:
i think you guys are mean, teaming up on one poor ps3 supporter. only cause he hates NIS games doesnt make him a bad person. I mean look at the shovelware that is Disgaea 3! (obviously, never played it)

 Yeah, and the thread was shitted up from the first response. Amazingly it was the person you think is getting teamed up on.



Faxanadu said:
i think you guys are mean, teaming up on one poor ps3 supporter. only cause he hates NIS games doesnt make him a bad person. I mean look at the shovelware that is Disgaea 3! (obviously, never played it)

How dare you dis PS3 game. It is on PS3, of course it is good!

It would be shovelware if it's on any other platform. 



Joeron said:

Well you made your point clear, it all depends on how big Nippon Ichi actually is. Even bigger publishers have made puzzle games with just 2 or 3 devs working on it. Hey Doshin the Giant for the N64 was made by 1 single man! And it turned out to be one of those classics enjoyable games.

 

Update: Doshin came out on the 64DD (small dev team) and later ported by 1 guy to the gamecube.


 I believe Okami is being ported by 5 people? but 1 team memeber. wow, he just be lonely. lol

 Also, the fact NIS really never had much DS experience doesn't really scream "All 5 will be good games", I would actually love if they stick with what they are best at (SRPG) and do 2 DS games in that genre to test the water first.



Soriku (Feb 10/08): In 5 years the PS3/360 will be dead.

KH3 bet: "If KH3 comes to Wii exclusive, I will take a 1 month of sig/avatar by otheres open a thread apologize and praise you guys' brilliance." http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?start=50&id=18379
Original cast: Badonkadonkhr, sc94597 allaboutthegames885, kingofwale, Soriku, ctk495, skeezer, RDBRaptor, Mirson,

Episode 1: OOPSY!
selnor
: Too Human I even expect 3-4 mill entire life and 500,000 first day. GoW2 ( expect 7 - 9 million entire life and over 2 mill first day), Fable 2 (expect 5-6 million entire life and 1.5 mill fist day) BK3 (expect 4 - 5 mill sales entire life and 1 mill first day).. Tales/IU/TLR should get to 2 or 3 million! post id: 868878
Episode 2:
Letsdance: FFXIII (PS3+360) first week in NA = 286K
According to pre-order rate in week 13 (post id: 2902544)

@Faxanadu: we aren't teaming up, seems there aren't alot of people agreeing with him. That's all.

About the news though, it's great news. Even if only 1 out of 5 will be great. It's still great news.