Nintendo 3DS sell well because of child games...?

torok said: Euphoria14 said: You gotta also love how so many here loved the Wii, yet it was full of crap games like they bitch about with the app store or Indie scene. People just like to pretend consoles have been immune to low quality titles being released on them. Just like movies and music, we have a division: a lot of games are crappy, most are regular, some are good and few are masterpieces. It's normal to have this division because hiting the top tier of quality is hard and regular games are more common because it's easier to make something half decent than ruin completely a game to the point it becomes pure crap. AAA and indies have the same division, so you have to be careful with what you buy. But it isn't a drama like people want it to be. If I want to go to the movies to see a film I see the reviews first because I don't want to pay a ticket and watch 2 hours of a terrible movie. What I see as a problem with the indie boom is that a lot of half-assed games got free passes that AAA games don't have with the critics. I got a lot of indies with PS Plus and while some are great (Velocity Ultra) others are completely overrated (Limbo).

A lot of crap aaa games get passes too for worse reasons.

I realize that indie games might be good for individuals or small groups, and some I really, really like. Others I think are a bit overrated, and I do feel that some indie games are a rip-off, especially the Early Access games. I like Starbound, and there are some other good Early Access games, but we have to be careful about what we buy, because not all indie games are good. I like the variety, but as some have said, we're often swamped with sub-par indie titles at full price. Then there are really good ones like Hotline Miami. It's a toss-up. I wouldn't mind less indie games coming out.

Vita pricing is terrible, but mobile isn't giving great gaming. The level of quality I see on games in my Nexus 7 is basically pathetic and actually the best games are puzzles and other simple things. Control quality is a big issue that still is without solution on mobile and most genres won't go well with that.

About Android OS, I think that their next handheld will probably be a return of the XPeria Play. It wasn't a decent idea, but they simply didn't want to brand is as a PlayStation to protect Vita and PSP. They tried to race 2 horses and one of them died while they could just have united it in a single strong horse. A PS Phone (branded as PS), acting as Vita sucessor and smartphone running Android but with a SDK that allowed them to change specs with the years but keeping games compatible with all gens of devices (at least for the time a gen would run) and had all of their 1st party and 3rd party games, still allowing people to carry a single device to use as phone ans play quality games. Add carrier subsidies and people would buy it for US$ 99 with contracts.

People mock indies, but it's where the next set of big game designers are going to come from.

The great thing about indie development is that it allows game designers/coders to make stuff without the need to try and get it through a publisher or trying to move up the AAA game industry first (if they are even able to get in). The AAA market is a no/little risk structure, so if you want something different then its mainly going to come from that market.

Indies have been around since the dawn of time, it's a shame people still mock this great industry, while the film and music industry, its "perfect" to be indie. Double standards.

Phones in the world of 2004 is much different than the world of phones in 2012 and on.

I also do very well understand the Vita audience. I am and have always been a niche gamer. I play the JRPGs, I play the obscure indie titles. 

The games they actually do release for the console are the ones I actually enjoy the most.

Due to the rise of smartphones though you won't see the Vita selling like the PSP did. It took a huge chunk of marketshare away from dedicated handhelds.

I think so but i want you to talk about Vita not Nintendo consoles

I mostly see the original and fun indie games ( No Man's Sky, Below, Bastion, Journey, etc...) get all the love and attention which shouldn't be a bad thing by any means!

Nothing to say about the Vita...Its dead in the west I guess...

For what reason?I think it's because of the lack of AA and AAA games