May I ask why you think indies don't count?

Who said Watch Dogs/Infamous sold well because of nothing else to play?

But no u dont provide any factual evidence that low software output is the cause of MK8 sales. People buy Nintendo hardware to play the big Nintendo franchises like Mario Kart, they dont buy Nintendo hardware then sit around and go, "welp I got nothing to play, might as well go buy Mario Kart"

If that was the case DKTF would sell like a hot cakes.

Actually it's because historically Mario Kart games have always sold really well.

exclusive direct, very good ads, free game, bundle, bautifulness, mario kart tv, anti-gravity, luigis death stare...

If that were true, why didn't Pikmin 3 and Super Mario 3D World sell nearly as fast?

Mario Kart 8 proved even with low console sales the game will sell. Starved or not Wii U owners will purchase the game. Also, the game helped sell units, people bought Wii U just for MK8. Acting like indies and other games don't count because you don't consider them big releases is just moving goal posts. Your list is still inaccurate.

I think the important thing to note is that even if MK 8 sold because WiiU gamers were starved for games, they still wanted to play more on WiiU. They could just as easily move on to another system and have more games, but they still enjoy playing on WiiU whenever any new games do come to the Nintendo system.

Where is DKC: Tropical Freeze? Anyways.... MK8 is not done selling well. I'm one of the most die hard Wii U fans and I haven't even bought it yet. Niether have my other friends that have Wii Us and they plan to get it around the same time I do... and my other friend is getting a Wii U for his birthday in a month and a half. and he wants MK8.... And my OTHER friend... might get a Wii U for Christmas. I know that 5 people won't help the Wii U sell but it shows that there are probably a lot of people that want it. I'm not starved for games. EA and other 3rd party companies not supporting Wii U that well? Who cares I don't need 2 games every month that I can complete in 1 day because they barley try. All they do is make the graphics awesome. Make a couple of levels. Change up the levels a couple of times to make it seem different and holy shit... they've finished a game in 2 months and releasing it to the public to play their buggy ass games. I have 16 Wii U games and I've only completed about 5 of them so I'm not starved. My 2 friends that have Wii Us aren't starved. They're perfectly happy playing NSMBU and Sonic Lost World and AC3. So I totally disagree.

because this person is wrong and I guess doesn't realize how huge the MK series is