| Lingyis said: americans love these conspiracy theories too much for their own good. |
Thats because the most powerful nation in the world is full of secrets and lies.
true story
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| BenKenobi88 said: I'm less annoyed by this than I am of 9/11 conspiracies, of which there are plenty. Basically, it boils down to easily convinced foreigners calling 9/11 a conspiracy to poke at our government more. Yeah, our government sucks and they hide plenty of terrible things...but there's more evidence to disprove conspiracy theories than to prove them. I think some people need to take a step back and think about things before eating the first theory that's spoon-fed to them. |
Clearly it is easier to laugh off the ridiculous moon kooks than it is the 9/11 morons, since a lot of people died that day that evidently quite a few people believe the outright insane "theories" postulated about 9/11...kind of an insult to the memories of those who died. BTW, I lived in Arlington, Virginia on 9/11 (for our foreign friends this is where the Pentagon is located) and you have to be just plain ol' crazy to think that you can hide something like this from hundreds of thousands of people in two of the biggest cities in the country who were eyewitnesses.
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| thanny said: just wondering, a few people have said they reckon 9/11 was not done by terrorists, that it was orchestrated by america. why exactly would america do that to itself??? |
You're not thinking the way the conspiracy theory mind thinks. Everything is a conspiracy. It was done as part of a larger conspiracy to get oil in Iraq, or to get Bush reelected, or to start a religious war with Muslims, or some other crazy thing. Take your pick, really. Everything is a conspiracy except the rantings of uneducated, ignorant people about said conspiracies, go figure. Surely they would not be selling 9/11 conpsiracy books and making 9/11 conspiracy movies for the money...
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rocketpig said:
They have the training module for the Apollo 11 craft in Arizona. Not sure where the original is but I doubt it just got up and ran away (I'll take a guess and say it's probably in the Smithsonian without checking). I have no idea about the footage but I'll look it up. Honestly, if that's the most evidence you can come up with to disprove the landing, you don't have a leg to stand on. Physicists and astronomers have been calculating and recalculating the details of the moon landing for years and no one has come up with substantial evidence to show that it was faked. Combine that with the Soviets having some of the best scientists on Earth working to get there before the US and no one said anything puts 95% of the conspiracy theories in serious doubt right off the bat. |
So you believe they just lost it? you are saying that their is no evidence that they faked it ,well people would not say it was faked if they just give those damned tapes! (or the majority does).
But what could Russia said? No one would believe them...Whole the Western World was god damned scared of them.. Whole the world wanted that USA was the first on the moon so they could show Captilism/democracy is the best....
Well why I COULD believe it was fake: (Remember I said COULD COULD COULD)
We are going back to the swinging Sixties.
Their was Kennedy who said in 1961 'THIS DECADE WE WILL LAND ON THE MOON'
Their was the Cold war (Russia is the best, No the Western world is blabla).
Their was the crowd of people who hated the USA especially in Europe , Australia and don't forget also in USA because of Viëtnam the USA needed something to make the world respect them again.
And their were the Russians who was beating the USA in Space.
I can imagine this conversation:
The white house meeting room end of the 60's:
Kennedy: What is the Urgent? I was watching the super Bowl goddamned.
Person X: Sir we have a huge problem..
Kennedy: What?
Person X: It ..is ..possible that we can't...land on the moon...
Kennedy: .... What?
Person X: Sir we probably can't land on the moon before 1972 or maybe even later...
Kennedy: ......
Person X: Sir I know that we promised we will be on the moon before 1970 but we can't.
Kennedy: Look son, I promised for the whole world we will be on the moon this decade. Can you
imagine how the world will react if I say we can't get there? I can't let those Vodka drinking ** Russians, The french Pussy's, The nazi pigs and those teadrinking morons laugh with us...
Kennedy: We only can do two things.
Person X: What?
Kennedy: Land on the moon..
Person X: ..But we can't!!!
Kennedy: Or fake it...
Person Y: But .... Sir that's...
Kennedy: Look out the window son what do you see?
Person Y: I see our beautifull white and stripes flag sir..
Kennedy: Yes you do;..Tell me are you proud to live in this nation?
Person Y: yes sir,
Kennedy: Do you want that they laugh with us?
Person Y: No sir
Kennedy: Well then fake it, Whole the world will believe it and
Respect us again and forget Viëtnam.
person Y: Well how should we do it sir ?
Perzon Z: I have an idea.
Kennedy: Tell me...
Person Z: I know someone in Hollywood who can help us and I have
the right place to film it.
Person Y: Will the people believe it if they see it?
Person Z: Do you remember that radioshow in the 50's about Aliens?
It was a theater piece of people who said there were aliens landed
and whole the world believed it was real till the Radio presentator said
it was fake... We will do the same but only will not say at the end that we faked it.
Person X: What if they ask some proof?
Person Z: Then we say we lost it;..
Person X: A good idea.
Kennedy: Guys I am proud to have people like you working for me
*And then they faked, Whole the world believed it...Later some didn't
They want to research the proof, the proof was gone the end...
Now you asking:
Why no country ever said it could be fake? Well let me make an example again
(I love them):
*Sydney during the Disco 70's*
Prime minister of Australia: A
Minister of Science : B
A: WHAT DID YOU SAY?
B: Euhm, Our scientists think the USA faked the moonlanding.
A: Hmmm why should they do that?
B: *explains it*
A: Well.What do you want to do?
B: Sir you should tell the world this...
A: You...you;..Are fucking Insane..
B: I...I...Don't understand sir..
A: Can you imagine what will happen if we say it is fake?
This can effect our good relations with the USA... We need them.
Your son works in A American company right? Would you like the owner
close it because Australia says the moonlanding was fake? Do you want that your
son sleeps on the street?
B: No sir....But we will lie..
A: Sometimes we need to lie..Don't think about yourself but also about
our citizens..
Why didn't countries like Russia said something about it?
They don't had a good relationschip with the USA.
Well no one would believe them, they can't prove it, the source is the NASA who
said they were on the moon and because they have lost the proof no one can research it.
Why would USA lie? Do they ever?
Well Dialogue time again:
Madrid (Spain).
Person A = A
Person B = B
A: Did you heard it?
B: What?
A: Well USA said they have evidence that their are Nuclear bombs
in Iraq.
B: Wow really?
A: Yup and our Government is going to send troops.
B: Wow ..They showed the evidence right?
A: Uhm not really but they will not lie about it. What's next?
Are you going to say the first moonlanding was fake you dumb***'
B: And all countries are sending troops?
A: Euhm no, France will not but they are just pussy's,
those Nazi pigs will not sending any troops too and Belgium also
said they will not go to Iraq.
B: What is an Belgium?
A: Euhm it is an country, Oh well it is time to kick satan's ass
(Satan = Saddam whatever).
*We all know how it ends, Their were no nuclear bombs and people
understand the USA lied and Spain was one of the first countries who didn't
want to work with USA anymore and sended his troops back home and others would follow*
More proof that USA lied?
Citizens of England: A
Minster of England: B
A: Is it true that their were planes from USA landed on
our ground with prisoners..
B: Euhm USA says no
A: you believe them still? even after they lied about Irad?
A: Sigh...Yes I do..just shut up!!
*Last week the England minister got proof that their were planes
with prisoners landed on England's ground and he was ashamed to tell
it to his country*
While I make up almost everything that I Typed here I still could
believe those kind of discussions could be true...
The USA government showed us that they can lie and why shouldn't they lie
about the moonlanding they had to land on the moon also if they had to fake it..
Their was no other way...
I am off to work now
....
The US and the USSR were locked in a heated pissing match to control the world for four decades. For two of them, the space program symbolized that struggle. By putting the first man in space, the USSR got bragging rights. By putting a man on the moon, the USA got 'em back - for good. No fucking way -NO fucking way - the USSR would have let the Americans (let alone Richard Fucking Nixon) get away with playing a fuggazi landing. If there was even the faintest whiff of foul play, you can be sure Tass would have spread the word far, wide and loud, yet they said not one peep for the next 20 years. It's a fucking shame that bullshit like this can find an audience.
@Konnichiwa - you do your crazy theories no favors by putting Kennedy in the White House in the late '60s. Unless you are going to also believe in the conspiracies surrounding his assassination.
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| Sicilian. said: It was real... but i do believe the 9/11 pentagon was not really hit by a plane because of the pure fact that there was no plane found after the crash...unless this is some donnie darko stuff and it got transported to a tangent universe. (: |
Except for all the goddamn wreckage you mean.
http://www.rense.com/general32/phot.htm
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html?page=6
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/ppfinal.html
http://911research.wtc7.net/mirrors/guardian2/pentagon/what-hit-it.htm
http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/conspiracy/q0265.shtml
Seriously, the internet puts the whole damn world at your finger tips, and you can't be bothered to do five minutes worth of homework before believing a conspiracy idiot?
I believe the 2nd landing was fake, but this one was real. Why would they need to go back again? Exactly.
| konnichiwa said: So you believe they just lost it? you are saying that their is no evidence that they faked it ,well people would not say it was faked if they just give those damned tapes! (or the majority does). |
If you wrote all that yourself that would be disturbing. Not in a good way either.
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