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Frogger on 13 June 2014

I have hundreds of books. I also don't own a PS4, though.



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kljesta64 on 13 June 2014
TheBoneCollector said:

Kresnik said:
kljesta64 said:
theres no way they know that.


There's no way that you know that they don't know that.

 

I always get a kick out of these comments,  because you don't like the stats don't mean they are false. Do you even know what market research is? Statistics? They easily know this. Did you ever do statistics in university? There is a reason they call elections when only 20% of the vote is in...These Stats are accurate withing a few percentage points, it's how market research works. Companies like Sony do this to geta  feel for the market, how to sell their product and market it to what demographics. Companies spend a lot on this stuff for a reason. 

you know its BS and you know its not correct. and they always sell to the same people why do research ?



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Keiner kann ihn bremsen, keiner macht ihm was vor. Immer der richtige Schuss, immer zur richtigen Zeit. Superfussball, Fairer Fussball. Er ist unser Torschützenkönig und Held.

TheBoneCollector on 13 June 2014
kljesta64 said:
TheBoneCollector said:

Kresnik said:
kljesta64 said:
theres no way they know that.


There's no way that you know that they don't know that.

 

I always get a kick out of these comments,  because you don't like the stats don't mean they are false. Do you even know what market research is? Statistics? They easily know this. Did you ever do statistics in university? There is a reason they call elections when only 20% of the vote is in...These Stats are accurate withing a few percentage points, it's how market research works. Companies like Sony do this to geta  feel for the market, how to sell their product and market it to what demographics. Companies spend a lot on this stuff for a reason. 

you know its BS and you know its not correct. and they always sell to the same people why do research ?

YEs, universities teaching statistical analysis, large companies spending millions and entire careers being based on market research and statistics, is all BS because a forum poster on VGCHARTZ doesn;t like the results of one such analysis. Sorry, do some research on statistics.

 

I repeat, explain why elections are called when even less then 20% of votes are counted? You are in denial.



aLkaLiNE on 13 June 2014

This thread needs a poll gauging current PS4 owners - Which ones jumped from another brand and which ones stayed Sony.



kljesta64 on 13 June 2014
TheBoneCollector said:
kljesta64 said:
TheBoneCollector said

I always get a kick out of these comments,  because you don't like the stats don't mean they are false. Do you even know what market research is? Statistics? They easily know this. Did you ever do statistics in university? There is a reason they call elections when only 20% of the vote is in...These Stats are accurate withing a few percentage points, it's how market research works. Companies like Sony do this to geta  feel for the market, how to sell their product and market it to what demographics. Companies spend a lot on this stuff for a reason. 

you know its BS and you know its not correct. and they always sell to the same people why do research ?

YEs, universities teaching statistical analysis, large companies spending millions and entire careers being based on market research and statistics, is all BS because a forum poster on VGCHARTZ doesn;t like the results of one such analysis. Sorry, do some research on statistics.

 

I repeat, explain why elections are called when even less then 20% of votes are counted? You are in denial.

you clearly dont see the point..when it comes to human research(why,what they do or buy) there is no such thing as accurate data unless you take into account every human on earth.



Tsubasa Ozora

Keiner kann ihn bremsen, keiner macht ihm was vor. Immer der richtige Schuss, immer zur richtigen Zeit. Superfussball, Fairer Fussball. Er ist unser Torschützenkönig und Held.

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Aura7541 on 13 June 2014
kljesta64 said:
TheBoneCollector said:

YEs, universities teaching statistical analysis, large companies spending millions and entire careers being based on market research and statistics, is all BS because a forum poster on VGCHARTZ doesn;t like the results of one such analysis. Sorry, do some research on statistics.

 

I repeat, explain why elections are called when even less then 20% of votes are counted? You are in denial.

you clearly dont see the point..when it comes to human research(why,what they do or buy) there is no such thing as accurate data unless you take into account every human on earth.

Then you know nothing about biostatistics. You can get accurate data without surveying every single person. There are multiple ways to ensure accuracy such as blindness, blocking, large sample sizes, random sampling, etc.

You disagree with the percentage, fine. It's okay to be skeptical. However, don't go around thinking that you speak for others because you don't (e.g. "you know its BS and you know its not correct.").



kljesta64 on 13 June 2014
Aura7541 said:

Then you know nothing about biostatistics. You can get accurate data without surveying every single person. There are multiple ways to ensure accuracy such as blindness, blocking, large sample sizes, random sampling, etc.

You disagree with the percentage, fine. It's okay to be skeptical. However, don't go around thinking that you speak for others because you don't (e.g. "you know its BS and you know its not correct.").


You cant get "ACCURATE" data. Even if you survey every single person on earth people are going to lie. Statistics can only be accurate in science in some fields.



Tsubasa Ozora

Keiner kann ihn bremsen, keiner macht ihm was vor. Immer der richtige Schuss, immer zur richtigen Zeit. Superfussball, Fairer Fussball. Er ist unser Torschützenkönig und Held.

NoImBrian on 13 June 2014

I don't know why people are surprised by this stat - is pretty much the market Sony go for. In summary: PC geeks go for MS, retro gamers Nintendo, people who don't read books Sony.



Aura7541 on 13 June 2014
kljesta64 said:
Aura7541 said:

Then you know nothing about biostatistics. You can get accurate data without surveying every single person. There are multiple ways to ensure accuracy such as blindness, blocking, large sample sizes, random sampling, etc.

You disagree with the percentage, fine. It's okay to be skeptical. However, don't go around thinking that you speak for others because you don't (e.g. "you know its BS and you know its not correct.").


You cant get "ACCURATE" data. Even if you survey every single person on earth people are going to lie. Statistics can only be accurate in science in some fields.

The bolded shows how you still don't understand how biostats work. You can get accurate data. You may not hit the exact center of a dartboard, but if your dart hits the bullseye, it's pretty darn accurate. Same applies to biostats. Your results will never be 100% accurate, but if it's really close, it's good enough. That's why terms such as standard deviation, percent error, and p-value exists.

As for the italics, you ignored the tactics I mentioned before. That is why blind tests exist; so they can prevent unneccesary bias.



TheBoneCollector on 13 June 2014
kljesta64 said:
TheBoneCollector said:
kljesta64 said:
TheBoneCollector said

I always get a kick out of these comments,  because you don't like the stats don't mean they are false. Do you even know what market research is? Statistics? They easily know this. Did you ever do statistics in university? There is a reason they call elections when only 20% of the vote is in...These Stats are accurate withing a few percentage points, it's how market research works. Companies like Sony do this to geta  feel for the market, how to sell their product and market it to what demographics. Companies spend a lot on this stuff for a reason. 

you know its BS and you know its not correct. and they always sell to the same people why do research ?

YEs, universities teaching statistical analysis, large companies spending millions and entire careers being based on market research and statistics, is all BS because a forum poster on VGCHARTZ doesn;t like the results of one such analysis. Sorry, do some research on statistics.

 

I repeat, explain why elections are called when even less then 20% of votes are counted? You are in denial.

you clearly dont see the point..when it comes to human research(why,what they do or buy) there is no such thing as accurate data unless you take into account every human on earth.

No one said it was %100 ccurate it is accurate withing a few percentage porints....... So yes they do know, you don;t.