Nintendo has had the only stellar event.

While Sony and Microsoft have packed up and gone home, Nintendo will STILL be announcing new IP's and games today.

Looks like Nintendo's innovative way of doing E3 is a home run.

They probably announced at least 10 exclusive games for the Wii U as well.

I don't know what people you're talking about. I'm free of preconceptions and I don't see Wii U going graphically further than PS3 or X360.

Considering what you've seen, do you think this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hg7OHSs8MRA

is superior to this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTmQ70uLUU4

Do you think this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTMhGg5mtp8

is superior to this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHzHoMT5eRg

Do you think this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNGMAjtfzYM

is superior to this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuwmRqEXyFw

I doubt Wii U will ever present a game graphically superior to Gran Turismo 5. I'm not saying Wii U is inferior to PS3, but it surely isn't superior. And, even if it was slightly better, it wouldn't be 1 generation ahead. That's for sure.

Not only the games (which are the ultimate results) show that but also the hardware specs. Wii U has more RAM but less processing power than PS3.

Not only the games and the specs show that but also the 3rd party decisions. They made versions to Wii U of games they launched on PS3 and X360. Now that they're skipping PS3 and X360 to create games fully 8th gen on PS4 and XOne, they're also skipping Wii U.

Is it me, the specs and the 3rd parties all wrong and you're the one right? Are we going far beyond logic and reason? Only if those videos are lying, the specs are lying and 3rd parties don't want to maximize profits.

The only thing 8th gen about Wii U is its launch date. Let me tell you something: Amazon Fire TV is another 8th gen console.

CoD AW and Project Cars???

Zelda looks graphically better than anything you showed on PS3. I dare even say it looks better than a lot of XBONE or PS4 games. It has a great artstyle, something you can't say of GT5 or even that trailer from the Last Guardian which didn't look remotely special to me. 

If Wii U was getting the next COD, AC and Batman like it got the last titles, it would be by far the best console. If it was getting the Division and Destiny there would be no question.

Without them, it does have a major flaw that the other consoles do not have. Nintendo should absolutely do something to secure at least a couple of those titles. It's crazy that even without them Wii U's lineup is impressive.

You really can't lose something you never really had. Those half baked attempts by EA for example where nothing serious.

Nintendo never really ever had GOOD 3rd party support when compared to the opposition. I am talking of the modern console age, not the NES era.

What truly amazes me is that Nintendo themselves haven't figured this out. So rather than invest some of that money in developing studios they sit on their asses and bemoan the third parties.

If you are going to build systems like Nintendo do, then hope for a gimmick that work to draw sales (like the wiimote) or back it yourself.

They have come to the conclusion that they have to find their own software for the system by buying exclusives like Bayonetta or producing their own but these things take time and should have been planned long ago. 

If Nintendo releases another home console chances are we will see this same scenario being played out all over again as with this and the last gen. Someone just isn't learning.

I really hope the Wii u can get to GameCube sales figures. That will be a relative success. 

Oh god, the graphics argument has started again! This thread really is unoriginal

how did you get lost with that? Nintendo has done/ is doing what the others have not. The others took the stage, went "Blah Blah Blah, buy our games, here's CGI, little bit of gameplay, Watch some more CGI. We're better, good bye" and then pack up and went home.Nintendo one the other hand, did their digital event and then for 7-8 hours each day, they have their live show showing gameplay, announcing and showing new games and IPs. They've done so much this year and yet people still shove them aside like they did nothing or that their 45 minute digital event was everything.

You need to learn how to differentiate between art and tech. Team Fortress looks better than Left 4 Dead 2 and yet it runs on an older version of the Source Engine. The Witcher 3 and the next gen Elder Scrolls will totally decimate Zelda from a technical standpoint. Heck I'm willing to bet Zelda wont have a single town as big and detailed as the locations we've seen in the Witcher or even Dragon Age Origins thus far. 

Zelda's art style means the game wont need sub surface scattering, it wont need complex facial animation, it wont need a thousand bones and mocap, it wont need volumetric smoke, it wont need per-object motion blur, it wont need 1,000,000 particles on screen, it wont need hundreds of light sources, it wont need simulated weather, it wont need tessellated waves, it wont need apex clothing, it wont need bokeh depth of field, it wont need horizon based ambient occlusion.

If you disagree then please tell me in technical terms how Zelda competes with a typical XBox One or PS4 game? Emphasis on technical terms, not that "looks good to me" BS. Huge vistas have been done before in Skyrim so what's so mind-blowing (technically) about Zelda. The only thing worth bragging about is the large amount of grass present in the foreground while Link is on Epona. I don't think console versions of Skyrim had that much vegetation on the plains. Cell shading and bloom wont impress me when freaking One Piece Unlimited World Red uses a similar form of it and that'll be on the 360 and PS3 as well.

I'm not saying Zelda is ugly or unimpressive, I'm just not hyping it up to be something its not. This will end up like Mario Kart 8 all over again. Promise the world yet something like Forza 4 offers identical performance in 720p with hardware anti aliasing on top.