And why would you think that i didn't get it?

Yeah, mocking ones post implies you're upset. You really can't comprehend much either, can you? What news did I say you cheerlead? I mean you cheerlead the whole playstation brand, not any particular news. But I guess that went right over your head too. Substance? Ironic coming from you! Lol

PSTV has more games then wii.

EDIT: Its backwards compatible from PS1-PS4 plus handhelds, something the Wii doesn't have. Plus the WIi doesn't connect with Wii U. Wii U audience has been filled and done with, why the hell anyone would mention it as a competitor is beyond me..

Well I meant it as an example of the fact that there are tons of media boxes that are cheap, because I read a couple of posts that mentioned Sony could market it as such. So, if it were marketed as a media box, then the wii is a competitor, because why would anyone need another media box? And as far as saying the wii is gone and done, and isn't a competitor, that may be true, but saying the pstv is helped by the ps1-2 library is not going to help it for the same reason. Those systems are in millions of homes still, and if people want to dust em off to play all those games they would. Nobody is going to rush to the store to buy something that can play ps1-2 games and have to pay for the service to get access to them.And, it's not backward compatible with ps3-4, it can stream from them, not the same thing. None of that helped the vita, and none of that will help the vita tv. This thread is asking why pstv will fail, I've given my opinion, I don't get why some are getting so defensive about it. If you don't want to hear why people think the pstv will fail, why create a thread asking thAt very question?

Just because I am arguing with you doesn't mean I have a problem with your argument. What I do have an issue with is bullshit claims based off of opinion/prejudice and invalid reasoning.

Since the Wii is basically discontinued, the Wii Mini is a more valid example, and you are right it could do similar media features as the PSTV. Its not backwards compatible though, and it doesn't connect with the Wii U they way that the PSTV does. Not to mention the network support for it is basically discountued.

However, it has nothing to do with accessing the full library of PS games, if you've never had a PS console before than its much better than a Wii Mini which doesn't have backwards compatibility. Streaming is equivalent to software backwards compatibility because it is emulation by definition.

Now that we've gotten that clear let me address your points.

Those systems are in millions of homes still, and if people want to dust em off to play all those games they would.

Millions of homes few of which have "all of those games", even if you assume the system still works and the dvd is still found and read. They also won't have network support and trophy support and its a lot more convient to use a streaming service then to plug in the old system just to play an old game.

Nobody is going to rush to the store to buy something that can play ps1-2 games and have to pay for the service to get access to them.

Baseless claim already proven false by preorders. Not to mention its an exaggerated absolute.

And, it's not backward compatible with ps3-4, it can stream from them, not the same thing.

Its software emulation, even if it is streamed, thus backwards compatibility, at least with the ps3 and psp, by definition. Its laterally compatible with the PS4 especially through remote play.

None of that helped the vita, and none of that will help the vita tv.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_fallacy

Not to mention in Japan the Vita did much better than the Vita TV, so why would the Vita TV flop in the states because the Vita flopped in the states. Its not like there are lots of Vita's sold to compete against it. Not to mention, its the cheapest 8th gen console on the market, tied with Ouya.

This thread is asking why pstv will fail, I've given my opinion, I don't get why some are getting so defensive about it.

I'm unconcenred with your opinion, I'm asking for reasoning, read the OP

"I've seen a whole bunch of claims that the PSTV will flop with little reasoning, people had stronger justification for the PS4 being a flop before it released."

Opinions alone are offtopic.

If you don't want to hear why people think the pstv will fail, why create a thread asking thAt very question?

This thread was made because of peope who said the PSTV will fail, this thread is asking what are the legitimate pieces of evidence that to back up that assertion. Saying it will fail because you think its dumb is not a valid argument, and will be reported just so you are aware.

I never said that the pstv was dumb, so you will report me for what? Something I never said? Because my opinion of the pstv isn't all roses?

I never said you specifically.

Reasoning is just another word for an opinion.  The pstv is a vita without a screen.  Pstv doesn't do one thing that the vita itself cannot do, based off of that REASONING, I don't think it will do that well.

Reason is the skill of tying evidence applied to a claim from rational facts, they are not synonyms. PSTV is 100$ cheaper than the Vita and can connect to TV, those are TWO things that the vita itself cannot do.

If reasoning is not basically an opinion, then what is it, fact?

Evidence is fact.

Software emulation usually means that the hardware you're playing on is doing the emulation,

Says who? Regardless of whether or not the game is streamed its still emulated. Software Emulation means that the emulation of the hardware is done throw software. The game is hardware emulated on the server side but because it comes through the PS Now service it is software emulated on the PSTV.

that's not the case here, at all. You need a ps4 to STREAM the game to it. Without one, you don't have any ps4 or ps3 games on your pstv, do you? That's not emulation by any definition. 

PS Now covers ps1-ps3 games, the PS4 is only required to play PS4 games, streaming uses the remote system as an emulation device. Still emulation.

 And preorders alone are far from confirming it to be a success,

You said and I quote, "Nobody is going to rush to the store to buy something " any preorders directly contradicts that, thats why absolutes aren't very good argument wise.

no matter your hyperbolic excitement to believe otherwise.

Because consistent cautious optimism is hyperbolic excitement, not to mention I never believed it would flop in Japan, like the Vita my opinion is that its a terrible waste of something with a lot of potential.

And saying you will report me for things I never said, will be reported, just so you are aware.....  It's all there, so I don't know how you think you can back up that lie. 

You never called the Vita dumb so don't you think It wasn't directed at you? I was simply making you aware of the the purpose of this thread, since you asked, and what would be considered offtopic in it. The very fact that you called it a lie, meant that you yourself know that you never made that statement, so you shouldn't be so Naive to think that simply because I quoted you doesn't mean that the warning was direct at you as well. 

Is it more likely that I would accuse you of making a statement you never made and then report you because of it and THEN tell you about it or that I would warn other's who share your opinion that they need evidence to support thier claim or be off topic.