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Captain_Tom on 07 June 2014
novasonic said:
Captain_Tom said:
novasonic said:
Captain_Tom said:
novasonic said:
I would argue the complete opposite.

- People that say Nintendo's online is 2 generations behind have clearly never touched a WiiU. While it's not as good as the other 8th gen consoles, it's still better than any of the 7th gen console.
- For the 8th gen, Nintendo is currently sitting at close to 50million units sold. More than double all other 8th gen consoles combined. A year head start? Yes. But, 50 million will not be caught any time soon.
- For every 3rd party game that skips Nintendo, they get another 3rd or 1st party exclusive to make up for it.
- The 3DS is the only handheld dedicated gaming machine to survive the mobile surge.
- Mario Kart 8 has shown that the WiiU still has some fight left in it. We wont see a new Nintendo home console until late 2017.


How so?  Do enlighten us.  Also "Survive" would be the exact word I would use for the 3DS.  Although your kidding yourself if you think the next one will do as well...

Hows about you give me a few valid reasons to explain how the WiiU's online services are on par with 6th gen consoles before I tell you why it's not. Because "That's what I believe without ever trying it." is just trolling. The handheld market is shrinking, but it's not going to disappear. There's only room for one dedicated handheld console in the market now, and I think it's pretty clear who's going to take that spot.


Well my psp had 32 player games with dedicated servers, a unified online account that let me download stuff on multiple systems, and most games had voice chat.  He'll I'm pretty sure the original xbox had all of these features too.  So now your turn bud.  Didn't expect me to have a well thought out response?

OK, so.. the PSP and Xbox had online matches, an account system, and voice chat?

Damn, I guess you're right. The WiiU only has:
- online matches / leaderboards
- account system
- voice chat
- video chat
- automatic game updates while console's off
- automatic firmware updates while console's off
- robust online store with catchy elevator music
- speedy web browser that can be used without closing game software
- exclusive social media service
- upload replay videos to youtube (mario kart 8)
- DLC, demos, trailer... etc etc etc..

Hells, even Pokemon X Y have voice chat.

Is it on par with the other 8th gen consoles? NO
Is it better than any 6th or 7th gen console? YES
Is claiming otherwise blatant trolling? YES


Please don't act like voice chat is standard lol because I know from experience it isn't.  And no, I can't download my stuff on multiple systems.  So what you didn't even answer anything I said.  Maybe more games have voice chat than I thought but still their account system is F'd up and you don't have any online games that really show that the servers are better than the ones on the PS2.  

It doesn't have:

-Trophies

-Save back-ups to the cloud

-Standard accounts accross multiple systems

-Party chat.  I am not even talking about cross-game.   I am talking about private chat rooms with 4-6 people.  FYI: 

http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/10/18/wii-us-baffling-voice-chat-solution-revealed

 

So these are big features us modern people have grown accustumed to.  You can talk it up all you want, but these were standards last gen that the Wii U is not meeting.  So yeah it competes with the original Xbox...Which is also sold way better than the Wii U lol!



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Captain_Tom on 07 June 2014
biglittlesps said:
jigokutamago said:
This is a joke thread. I don't care if you think otherwise.

It isn't a joke. We might see only one Console in future which plays discs and we mostly migrate to Online and digital after that because of technology being affordable and best. So, Sony and Microsoft already started their Networking solutions with Gaikai and Azure but Nintendo doesn't have have anything like that and not even basic network (which they are trying still now recently with NNID etc.,) and also they are losing momenutum being terrible in Home console and not meeting their expectations in Handheld which is going to get worse in future. They should make major changes and come being competitive with Sony/Microsoft in hardware power and helping/funding development for 3rd partities to get their support, launching a good network infrastucture, making more new matured  and family IP's to balance the consumers base of theirs and current hardcore market, providing more value to gamers with services like PS+ etc.,  Otherwise they have to move to other kind of gaming section or media like they did with Wii and now going with QOL (or) they are going to face losses in future in gaming.

What I bolded is the major point of my OP.  If (When) consoles go all cloud Sony and most likely MS will only have to flip a switch.  Nintendo hasn't even started building the switch!!!



Captain_Tom on 07 June 2014
shokenchi said:
just butthurt over mk8 sales.


Who?  I hope you don't mean playstation people lol.  Watchdogs (A third party non-exclusive) outsold the Wii U during the biggest release of its generation...



Captain_Tom on 07 June 2014
RubberWhistleHistle said:
so i gues nintendo should be more like sony and try to sell the wii u off of propaganda and hype. dont worry about making games, just make a powerful, but cheap console and make sure you all the third party companies port their games on it. then make a lot of adds and get the public to believe its going to be better than the competition. lol yeah, thatd work.


LOL some of us call it content!



Captain_Tom on 07 June 2014
RolStoppable said:
The original post can be summed up with "Because I am biased and have no clue whatsoever."


Yeah the guy who thought GTAV would lose to SSBB isn't the biased one lol.  Some call it biased, I call it reality.



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Captain_Tom on 07 June 2014
Ka-pi96 said:
Yep I agree. Nintendo have some good games but their hardware is so far behind in so many areas and it isn't a quick fix, they really need to plan ahead. Not just to get to where Microsoft and Sony are now but to get to where they will be in a few years time.


Bingo.



Play4Fun on 07 June 2014

Nintendo should listen to their fanbase and not people that want them to try to be like Sony/MS, enivitable leading them to failure.
$400 - $500 console with @100 loss...LOL.

Nintendo needs more Wii-like consoles. Not GC-like consoles.



RubberWhistleHistle on 07 June 2014
Captain_Tom said:
RubberWhistleHistle said:
so i gues nintendo should be more like sony and try to sell the wii u off of propaganda and hype. dont worry about making games, just make a powerful, but cheap console and make sure you all the third party companies port their games on it. then make a lot of adds and get the public to believe its going to be better than the competition. lol yeah, thatd work.


LOL some of us call it content!

what kind of content do you have on ps4? what is their biggest exclusive this year that we know about? the last of us? lol. (believe me, i dont think that wwhd really needed to be made at all, but you know what? at least that is a 10+ year old game). sony needs to make sure they have something up their sleeves, completely unexpected, this e3. there needs to be some significant announcement that you can only experience on ps4. if that doesnt happen, and ps4 suffers a year of no games (kind of like the wii u did), then i see the tides turning more drastically than you guys think.



Player2 on 07 June 2014
Captain_Tom said:
RolStoppable said:
The original post can be summed up with "Because I am biased and have no clue whatsoever."


Yeah the guy who thought GTAV would lose to SSBB isn't the biased one lol.  Some call it biased, I call it reality.

It seems that Rol's points were too much for someone who can't count up to four and therefore had to rely on direct attacks.



Soundwave on 07 June 2014
Play4Fun said:
Nintendo should listen to their fanbase and not people that want them to try to be like Sony/MS, enivitable leading them to failure.
$400 - $500 console with @100 loss...LOL.

Nintendo needs more Wii-like consoles. Not GC-like consoles.


Great. Now you just need a once in a lifetime idea/concept for a controller every 5 years to make that business model work. Because basically every Nintendo console is a "GameCube" otherwise. That's the whole thing this gen, they tried to sell their new machines on forced novelty (a tablet controller + a 3D display) and have not had anywhere near the same success.

Maybe they can attract the pervert market next time out with a dildo-mote. Blue ocean and all that.