He is presenting facts, or are you claiming the charts aren't real? :).

This generation is already falling behind the last one in total sales, and the PS sales aren't that great for a market leader (they are great compared to WiiU and X1 but those aren't selling well ether). Also, both PS4 and X1 had recordbreaking launches but that probably has more to do with a gaming environment that is more frontloaded than anything else.

I think this proves that this is a repeat of the 6th generation.

You know I'm wondering what happened to those people who thought that this generation would be bigger than the last.

Sooo despite PS4 having the biggest launch ever Sony's home console HW was never this low since 1996, and 2014 numbers aren't anything special. Greatness awaits.

Xbox Home only?

Hi guys.  This is my first post so go easy on me.

Recently, I've been trying to chart a comparison of the last few console generations (just Sony and MS) and I'm wondering, where do these numbers come from?  How do you have data back to 95?

So far, I have figures for the current gen (PS4/X1) and the last gen (PS3/360) but I can't find much beyond that.  I can find overall totals and some scattered information but not in the detail of the more recent generations.

For the record, my eighth gen data comes from the VGChartz hardware comparison tool, and my seventh gen data comes from the NPD data in the table on this page (scroll down for it - it's under "NPD sales figures monthly table")...

http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/NPD_Seventh_generation

As I go back further than that, though, the data becomes more generalized.  I'm charting the seventh and eighth gens by monthly sales but I can only find yearly totals for the sixth gen, and almost nothing before that.

Does anyone know where I can find sales figures for the PS1, PS2, and original Xbox?  Preferably monthly sales figures if they are actually published anywhere.  I tried looking for more info at some of the sources cited on that wiki but, unfortunately, many of them are just dead links now.

Thanks in advance guys.  Nice place you have here.

Looks a lot less dire for Sony now, don't you think? :)

The people who are gone were the remaining casuals who don't make nearly as much impact in software sales as the core. At least I hope I'm right.

You know what would be really great? Software numbers for the time frame, of course split by consoles and handhelds.

Could you point me to any of these websites please?

But the data is on record somewhere, isn't it?  I mean, I found the NPD's monthly sales figures for the seventh gen.

To be clear, I'm not talking about going back now and trying to figure it out after the fact.  I'm asking if there is any record of the data that was compiled at the time.

I understand they may be estimates but my point is that if such estimates were released during the sixth - and even the fifth - generation, you'd think that some online resource would still have them.  Or is it just that they were never released in the first place?  Perhaps such estimates weren't made public back then?

Off-topic: Er... am I the only one who can't see my name in my profile?  Is it just my stupid computer or is it actually not showing up?

The market is shrinking since 2008. Especially in the handheld division.

Or do you count casuals who moved on to mobile or PC as still part of the console market? Which part exactly grew?

And isn't it the software that makes the most money? If the departure of the casuals really has a low effect on software sales then it's not as bad as you might think.

1. Great point, in relation to mibile thats what i have been saying. When people say dedicated handhelds are dying (like thts a bad thing) they ignore that there is an uptick in mobile gaming from phones and tablets, they also ignore that money made from that segment still factors into the "gaming industry". Funny thing is, hadheld gaming (dedicated+mobile) has never been bigger than it is today. Albeit not in the traditional sense.
2. Another good point, also something I have been trying to say. If this gen sony and MS can get their prices down to $199 early enough, then that will be overall a good thing for everyone.

Bolded Thats the one area I don't agree with you though. There is a predictable paramiter that determines when the next generation of consoles will start. And its always started by the person losing the previous gen and want to get a bosost in the upcoming one; PSX era it was started by sega dreamcast, PS2 era it was started by MS 360, PS3 era started by Nintendo WiiU....etc. As long as Sony/MS sells more than 40/50M consoles, they will stay in this generation for as long as they can. I see this gen lasting 7yrs. The new console will be out in 2020. Revealed and released in the same year and will be BC. Only way this happens soner, is if sony runs away with this gen and sells around 120M and MS sells no more than 40M and nintendo even less.