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morenoingrato said:
vivster said:

Yes, I thought that was really out of place and cringeworthy.

It just doesn't fit in the picture of the team since it's usually very fair and humble to other teams.

Still can't believe they pulled this shit.

It's something I would have expected from my country's team (and even Argentina, I was pleasantly surpised with their attitude), but absolutely not from the German Team.

I think this can be isolated though to the players who thought of it. They had 4 groups who each had to think of some performance for the show. I doubt it was checked beforehand by the whole team what they would do. At the very least Löw and Bierhoff would've stopped it if they had known of it.



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I'm sorry, but what does that dance mean?



morenoingrato said:
I'll never support Germany again, douches. >_>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUIYWZE74n0

Well, that's just fucking lame.... -_-



                
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If it helps, there was a big backlash from the German media and half of the fans. Niersbach will write a letter to the Argentinian football associacion to set it straight.



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ErwinMoC said:
I'm sorry, but what does that dance mean?


Best I can put it, when they are hunched over they are saying "This is how the Guachos walk", and when the stand up they say "This is how the Germans walk".

Gaucho is a term for South Americans, in this case likely referring to Argentina as they lost to Germany in the final.  Some people might read this as these players rubbing salt in the wound basically saying, "You suck, we rule, ha ha ha!"



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ErwinMoC said:
I'm sorry, but what does that dance mean?

nothing, german club teams do it to each other every game day - a standard chant the winning team does (obviously exchanging "Gauchos" and "Deutschen" with a fitting term)

it means "they are sad, we are deliriously happy"

and people who get pissed by that (especially germans) are concern troll enough to think grown men in a different country can't take it



Lafiel said:
ErwinMoC said:
I'm sorry, but what does that dance mean?

nothing, german club teams do it to each other every game day - a standard chant the winning team does (obviously exchanging "Gauchos" and "Deutschen" with a fitting term)

it means "they are sad, we are deliriously happy"

and people who get pissed by that (especially germans) are concern troll enough to think grown men in a different country can't take it

It's not about who can take it, it's about class and sportsmanship.

Just because unsporting behavior is so common in football doesn't make it ok. Especially for a German team that usually is one of the fairest teams on the grass.



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Ka-pi96 said:
Lafiel said:
ErwinMoC said:
I'm sorry, but what does that dance mean?

nothing, german club teams do it to each other every game day - a standard chant the winning team does (obviously exchanging "Gauchos" and "Deutschen" with a fitting term)

it means "they are sad, we are deliriously happy"

and people who get pissed by that (especially germans) are concern troll enough to think grown men in a different country can't take it


Having a go at another club team is a bit different than racism though.

It was by no means racism. Gaucho isn't even a derogatory term.



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Ka-pi96 said:


But implying they are inferior is.

Just imagine if they had beat an African team or something and done a similar thing about them...

the honest and true meaning of that chant and walk is "they are sad and hanging their heads, while we are retardedly happy" - there is absolutely no notion of racism in it



Ka-pi96 said:
vivster said:
Ka-pi96 said:

Having a go at another club team is a bit different than racism though.

It was by no means racism. Gaucho isn't even a derogatory term.


But implying they are inferior is.

Just imagine if they had beat an African team or something and done a similar thing about them...

It's a bit different implying someone to be a worse race or a worse football team. This case is the latter. Or are you saying all the jabs and memes at the Brazilian loss against Germany were racist too?

That word gets thrown too much by people who don't know how to use it.



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