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bananaking21 said:

they have been kissing his ass for the last 10 years when he has been absolutely horrible. no coach would last 8 years without a trophy in a "big" club like arsenal, and 10 years without any major trophy. (no, the FA and community shields arent major trophies). so you might hear some fans saying he needs to go, but the majority will continue to gobble up all the bullshit he says, and just like wenger will say "next year will be our year" for the 11th year in a row.

I don't think you understand how the board work at Arsenal. To them, finishing 4th, a place in Champions League is enough because that alone brings in the money.

Say what you want about Wenger, he's not lost his job and that's because he's bloody good at itHe's consistantly got into the last 16 of Europes clubs for the 13 years.

And the FA cup is a major trophy.

Is he though? I read an article the other day saying that if Arsenal don't win the league this year then Wenger needs to go. As part of it they said that most managers would be able to get Arsenal in to the top 4, and considering the team they've got I'd be inclined to agree. So if most managers could do it then what exactly is he doing above that? Nothing!



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LurkerJ said:

Don't forget the business side of things, Man U, for example, is £380m in debt. Arsenal isn't.

Where did that debt come from though? IIRC it was the Glazer's debt and technically nothing to do with the club.

Besides, didn't it used to be like £600m a couple years ago? If they've reduced it that much then they can't be doing that bad...



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Ka-pi96 said:

Is he though? I read an article the other day saying that if Arsenal don't win the league this year then Wenger needs to go. As part of it they said that most managers would be able to get Arsenal in to the top 4, and considering the team they've got I'd be inclined to agree. So if most managers could do it then what exactly is he doing above that? Nothing!

Yes, he is. You have to factor in a lot more things because 4-7 seasons ago, they weren't that good. The players Arsenal had weren't world class, internationals but not the best, they have 2 now so yes they should be doing better but so should Mourinho with a team that won the league last year. Liverpool have spent more than Arsenal by a long way over the years and other thn one random Champions League win, they've only finished above them once.

http://www.transferleague.co.uk/premier-league-2003-to-date/transfer-league-tables/premier-league-table-2003-to-date

Table of 10 years (as of 03 so Chelski time) of money spent per season, the amount of money Arsenal got from sales shows a sign of how the club/board were cashing in on players while not spending to replace them yet he still finsihed enough to get into the Champions league.

In reality we will never know unless he leaves and goes to another club before retirement. I personally think he should have left after the FA cup win after the trophy drought and left someone else have a go then. Leave on somewhat of a high. Him leaving could cause a Fergie like void however, where the new managers haven't done as well as they should have.



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Cant make it up. Leicester draw then Spurs, City and Arsenal all go and lose.

Also this matchday has thrown the race for the top 4 right open. West Ham, United and Liverpool are all in with a shout (latter 2 could still win the Europa League for spot number 5). Also, given their form, you cant quite rule Chelsea out.



Disappointed, but not really surprised, by our loss to Liverpool.
Glad that Tottenham/Arsenal lost as well though.



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Cant believe we drew last night yet have pulled away from the top 4. Thats incredible!

All we need now is a Spurs V Arsenal draw on Saturday and hope we can get a win at Watford and that would surely make Leicester favourites!



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SecondWar said:
Cant make it up. Leicester draw then Spurs, City and Arsenal all go and lose.

Also this matchday has thrown the race for the top 4 right open. West Ham, United and Liverpool are all in with a shout (latter 2 could still win the Europa League for spot number 5). Also, given their form, you cant quite rule Chelsea out.

Probably after Saterday top 3 is also right open... when Arsenal loses

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/arsenal/12181021/Arsenal-vs-Swansea-Premier-League-live.html

Petr Cech misses Spurs game
Arsenal's goalkeeper injured himself while running up for a corner and WILL miss the North London derby!
Laurent Koscielny is also out for that game. Arsenal in crisis? Probably not but they're not having a great time.

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