Civil War was okay, the ending of the main series was a Whedon idea, so automatically for me gets the utter bull crap opinion.

However, I know the regeneration of which you speak and me and many X-men and Wolverine fans hated it, sure many thought it was cool but that's not how Wolverine's power is meant to work. It's a healing factor, not regeneration. In AoA he lost a hand and it didn't grow back. If he loses a tooth, it won't come back, if he has his heart or any other vital organ removed from his body, he can't grow a new one and survive, he's dead. But that moment, changed the idea of Wolverine. Sadly for the worse.

This is one gripe I have with many comics and writers, they change basic principles of how something has always worked to fit their ideas, instead of molding their ideas arounf what they have. Recently, Bendis time travel shite, Phoenix, the way so many writers have made Xavier to be the bad guy, Danger Room AI bullcrap (Whedon in general, insulted X-men fans but some still praise him because he is Whedon), even changes to Bishop were annoying...

Oh, I went off on one. Lets put it this way, character development is good, changing a character to pretend/push character development is bad.

Vomited on my keyboard when you mentioned that.  How did a first Whedon story arc turn out so awesome only to be followed up with such shite?

Anyway, I guess we're drifting off topic.  We'll let others discuss the movie.

lestatdark said: If they don't cast this guy as older apocalypse, i'm gonna be very dissapointed http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0431895/

I had a couple of actors in mind (including the reanimated corpse of Michael Clarke Duncan) but that guy you linked to is PERFECT.

As a comic and huge X-Men fan I was again, saddened. This is the 5th X-Men movie that has been made and again we are dumped on with another crap movie. Where are the awesome battles ? Where are the classic villains ? There are so many great story plots that marvel can dive into. Excutioners Song. Death of Wolverine. Age Of Apocalypse. Onslaught. Afterr Xavier. But noooooooo. We get yet another Mystique rompfest. Marvel needs to take a tip from the Dark Knight series. Take away the PG13 status, make it catered more towards the hardcore fans and go all out. We don't need another film telling us the origins of anything. Please......... Oh and Cyclops, Gambit and Rogue needs better roles damb it.

I just saw it yesterday and I personally loved it. In my opinion, it is the best X-Men movie yet and probably the second best movie this year after Captain America.

Would have liked to have seen more of Quicksilver - thought the 'my mom once new a guy who could do that' comment was great.

Will be interesting to see how Whedon uses his version in next Avengers.

I once thought like you.  You have to realize that even the animated films can't be faithful to the comics in most cases.  Onslaught?  Age of Apocalypse?  You're picking storylines that not only built upon decades of lore, but also took over a year to resolve!  How could they even set these stories up?  Onslaught more or less resolved the issue of the X-Traitor and killed the all of the major heroes (that Fox doesn't even have rights to), sent them to another world---long story short, unless you want to totally alienate the fans, you're gonna have to make some compromises.  

I went with my 14 year old non-comic fan nephew and when it was over and I was feeling super satisfied, his response was: "That was confusing."  As for taking away the PG13 status, did you not see Ice Man's head come off?  Collosus getting ripped in half?  Sunspot getting his arm cut off?  The movie(s) you're hoping for will never be made!  Personally, I'm amazed that they were able to tie in the reboot, First Class, with all of the prior movies and the Wolverine movies and make a story that could be enjoyed on its own as well as combined with all of the other X-movies.  Sorry bro.  Comics fans are notoriously hard to satisfy and always like to show their knowledge by saying "They should do this" and "In the comics, they did that instead"  but you're in the minority on this one.  

Just came back from the theatre. Some thoughts (as somone who has read only a few X-men comic books and got to know X-men through the animated series)

I loved First Class and the first two X-men movies and didn't dislike the third one as much as everyone else did, but I have to say, for me this one was a 6/10.

-Hated the premise. Time travel is always a bad idea and makes the audience feel cheated (I guess people are ok with it because they hate x3 with such passion).

-No epic battles/no actual villain. Every good movie needs a good villain and this one had nothing of the sort.

-Since when did Kitty/Ellen have that power?

-Xavier was absolutely annoying in this movie. Surely, we all go through tough times, but this was hard to watch.

-Jokes were extremely predictable and thus not funny (Avengers did it better)

-Many dull moments.

-Hated the direction of the fight scenes. Not sure what it was wrong with them; they just seemed off.

etc...

But the quicksilver slow motion scene was one my favourite scenes in any movie I've ever watched. It was hilarious and well made. So props to them for that.
Having said that, they did make him look overpowered. Why not keep him around for the main mission? And can he not beat almost every single X-man with his power? They wouldn't be able to react fast enough even if they tried.

Oh well. Still planning on watching the next one.

Reading this thread, a lot of people keep asking how/when Kitty got time travel powers. I don't know. Let's check the ol' asshole and see if there's anything else up there!!

Some mutants have secondary mutations like diamond skin and telepathic powers. Maybe, in the movie universe, Kitty is one such mutant. Not good enough? Well, maybe she encountered some mutant with the ability to transfer power and she was the recipient like Johnny Storm was in the Rise of the Silver Surfer. Still not good enough? *reaches deep into asshole* Back when, it was said that Spider-Man's spider sense actually alters the future every time he used it. That's the reason for his notoriously bad luck. Time is actually against him and is trying to eliminate him. Maybe Kitty has been altering time when she phases and has learned to control/transfer her power.

Still not enough? *reaches deeeeeeep into asshole one last time* in the original version, Kitty was the one that goes back in time. Out of respect, they kept her as a major character and an integral part of the story. Just go with it. Okay?

Part of me wonders if the story would have been better if Kitty Pryde did go back instead of Logan, thogh....